What do you think of Kore 2?

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ew-
I don't really have any use for the Kore interface, but the SW version is attractive to me as an organizational tool. SW pricepoint seems to be reasonable as well.

However, I get the feeling that the SW version may be included, at some point, in the Komplete package, similar to how GR SW was. If there is absolutely zero possibility of this, then I'd be inclined to put Kore SW on my wish list. Are you at liberty to comment on any of that?

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-B
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I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. ( :hihi: )

ew
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ew wrote: Kore doesn't have multicore support, period.
This is one thing that kind of bothers me. I've got a nice dual core machine and many of the Kore patches are very CPU heavy. Sure would be nice...
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ew wrote:I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. ( :hihi: )

ew
It was also said 1.5 years ago that Kore would never be sold without its controller. :P

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Breeze wrote:
ew wrote:I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. ( :hihi: )

ew
It was also said 1.5 years ago that Kore would never be sold without its controller. :P
True. However, selling it without the controller has proved to be a fairly profitable venture. Where's the profit including Kore with Komplete?

ew
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ew wrote:True. However, selling it without the controller has proved to be a fairly profitable venture. Where's the profit including Kore with Komplete?

ew
True, but couldn't you also say that about every VSTi now included in Komplete?

I have feeling we could continue this banter all night :roll:

I'm just disturbed by NI's apparent change of direction. They used to be about making instruments, and now they seem to be concentrating on making sounds. Personally I've always been of the opinion that the artist plays the instrument and not the other way round. In my opinion, NI should be concentrating on shortening the distance between imagination and reality; I still think intelligent software is the key allowing systems that will allow sound sculptors to hone in on what they hear in their minds.

Making sounds for commerce is a lot about pandering to the gout du jour. Inventing machines that will re-invent the way we manipulate sounds is what I always believed Native Instruments was about. Kore seems to me currently more about re-packaging than exploration; but I won't blame anyone needing to survive and exploiting what they have. It's a useful tool, but to me it's one tool in a much larger arsenal of resources, and it too will someday have a more humble position there.

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ATS wrote:Anyone else with any thoughts about Kore 2? Like it, Love it, Hate it?

thanks.
Already missing it.

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zerocrossing wrote:
ew wrote: Kore doesn't have multicore support, period.
This is one thing that kind of bothers me. I've got a nice dual core machine and many of the Kore patches are very CPU heavy. Sure would be nice...

i wasn't aware of no dual core :( I will wait for an update. I still have hope it will be included it Komplete 6 as well.
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Breeze wrote:Making sounds for commerce is a lot about pandering to the gout du jour. Inventing machines that will re-invent the way we manipulate sounds is what I always believed Native Instruments was about. Kore seems to me currently more about re-packaging than exploration; but I won't blame anyone needing to survive and exploiting what they have. It's a useful tool, but to me it's one tool in a much larger arsenal of resources, and it too will someday have a more humble position there.
Say what? Considering that Kore's a host for all your plugins and allows you to combine and control them all, isn't that exploration? If you think about Kore controlling just NI plugins, you're missing a big part of the concept.

ew
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I love all the Kore sounds and all since I am a preset junkie :D
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I think this is my first post! :D


Can somebody be kind to clear a few things up (im a newbie who has Komplete 5 coming in the post)

I love the idea of firing up one App to access all my Komplete presets and more but unsure of the followin:

1) Controller - this sounds worth the price alone for me if it can control all the Native Instrument parameters as I hate fiddling with the mouse. Are all parameters easy to play with? Can you control everything as I presume on some plugins there will be many more things to tweak then knobs. I guess there is like a bank up kinda feature to control most things??


2) I see that the upcoming Kore update makes the Kore controller usable as a generic MIDI controller - does this mean I can put it in some kind of native mode and able to use the play/rec/rewind/forward etc to control my Logic transport controls?? This would be great for me as I dont see myself going down a physical mixer route and would kill tow birds with one stone as otherwise im thinking of getting a small transport controller

3) Can Omnisphere patches be integrated into Kore??


4) Controlling parameters of 3rd party plugins - is there some kind of learn feature or do you map everything yourself?

5) Is it CPU / RAM intensive


Cheers

Paul

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Kore with some of the sound packages is a bargain. My only complaint is the File/Load Sound function disapears when inside of a host - standalone only.

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kultschar wrote:I think this is my first post! :D
Your life will never be the same... :hihi:
1) Controller - this sounds worth the price alone for me if it can control all the Native Instrument parameters as I hate fiddling with the mouse. Are all parameters easy to play with? Can you control everything as I presume on some plugins there will be many more things to tweak then knobs. I guess there is like a bank up kinda feature to control most things??
You have multiple pages that you navigate through via the cursor on the controller. There's two sets of pages- user (editable, and recordable as automation in your host) and plugin (all parameters in the order that they present themselves). The user pages for NI plugins have EA (easy access) pages that cover the most commonly tweaked parameters for that plugin on one or two pages.

You'll more than likely start creating your own pages; it's easy to do, and you'll have things where you want them.
2) I see that the upcoming Kore update makes the Kore controller usable as a generic MIDI controller - does this mean I can put it in some kind of native mode and able to use the play/rec/rewind/forward etc to control my Logic transport controls?? This would be great for me as I dont see myself going down a physical mixer route and would kill tow birds with one stone as otherwise im thinking of getting a small transport controller
If you can assign Logic's transport to MIDI or MCU controllers- yep. Note however that the update won't support HUI emulation if you're using MCU.

3) Can Omnisphere patches be integrated into Kore??
Can you use them in Kore? Sure.
Can you do batch import? No- Omnisphere doesn't follow .fxb/.fxp convention; .fxb must be supported by the plugin for batch import. You'll have to do it one at a time.
4) Controlling parameters of 3rd party plugins - is there some kind of learn feature or do you map everything yourself?
It's learn. Select the Kore control, hit assign and then learn, and move the corresponding control in your plugin. You can map multiple controllers to the same destination and one controller to many, each with different ranges.
5) Is it CPU / RAM intensive
Depends what's loaded into it. Kore empty runs about 1% of one core on my machine.

ew
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If I have Kore 2, and Kontakt 3 - Can I use the Kontakt effect modules in a chain... so, route audio into kore and through any of the Kontakt 3 effects (convolution reverb for example) and then back out ?

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koalaboy wrote:If I have Kore 2, and Kontakt 3 - Can I use the Kontakt effect modules in a chain... so, route audio into kore and through any of the Kontakt 3 effects (convolution reverb for example) and then back out ?
No. Kontakt doesn't have audio ins.

ew
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