What do you think of Kore 2?
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- KVRAF
- 6272 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
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I don't really have any use for the Kore interface, but the SW version is attractive to me as an organizational tool. SW pricepoint seems to be reasonable as well.
However, I get the feeling that the SW version may be included, at some point, in the Komplete package, similar to how GR SW was. If there is absolutely zero possibility of this, then I'd be inclined to put Kore SW on my wish list. Are you at liberty to comment on any of that?
Cheers
-B
I don't really have any use for the Kore interface, but the SW version is attractive to me as an organizational tool. SW pricepoint seems to be reasonable as well.
However, I get the feeling that the SW version may be included, at some point, in the Komplete package, similar to how GR SW was. If there is absolutely zero possibility of this, then I'd be inclined to put Kore SW on my wish list. Are you at liberty to comment on any of that?
Cheers
-B
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- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. (
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- KVRAF
- 18416 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
This is one thing that kind of bothers me. I've got a nice dual core machine and many of the Kore patches are very CPU heavy. Sure would be nice...ew wrote: Kore doesn't have multicore support, period.
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- KVRAF
- 1895 posts since 13 Oct, 2002
It was also said 1.5 years ago that Kore would never be sold without its controller.ew wrote:I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. ()
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- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
True. However, selling it without the controller has proved to be a fairly profitable venture. Where's the profit including Kore with Komplete?Breeze wrote:It was also said 1.5 years ago that Kore would never be sold without its controller.ew wrote:I rather doubt you'll ever see Kore as part of Komplete. From a business aspect, it makes much more sense to keep them separate; they work as "gateway drugs" to each other. ()
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- KVRAF
- 1895 posts since 13 Oct, 2002
True, but couldn't you also say that about every VSTi now included in Komplete?ew wrote:True. However, selling it without the controller has proved to be a fairly profitable venture. Where's the profit including Kore with Komplete?
ew
I have feeling we could continue this banter all night
I'm just disturbed by NI's apparent change of direction. They used to be about making instruments, and now they seem to be concentrating on making sounds. Personally I've always been of the opinion that the artist plays the instrument and not the other way round. In my opinion, NI should be concentrating on shortening the distance between imagination and reality; I still think intelligent software is the key allowing systems that will allow sound sculptors to hone in on what they hear in their minds.
Making sounds for commerce is a lot about pandering to the gout du jour. Inventing machines that will re-invent the way we manipulate sounds is what I always believed Native Instruments was about. Kore seems to me currently more about re-packaging than exploration; but I won't blame anyone needing to survive and exploiting what they have. It's a useful tool, but to me it's one tool in a much larger arsenal of resources, and it too will someday have a more humble position there.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
zerocrossing wrote:This is one thing that kind of bothers me. I've got a nice dual core machine and many of the Kore patches are very CPU heavy. Sure would be nice...ew wrote: Kore doesn't have multicore support, period.
i wasn't aware of no dual core
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- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Say what? Considering that Kore's a host for all your plugins and allows you to combine and control them all, isn't that exploration? If you think about Kore controlling just NI plugins, you're missing a big part of the concept.Breeze wrote:Making sounds for commerce is a lot about pandering to the gout du jour. Inventing machines that will re-invent the way we manipulate sounds is what I always believed Native Instruments was about. Kore seems to me currently more about re-packaging than exploration; but I won't blame anyone needing to survive and exploiting what they have. It's a useful tool, but to me it's one tool in a much larger arsenal of resources, and it too will someday have a more humble position there.
ew
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
I love all the Kore sounds and all since I am a preset junkie 
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- KVRist
- 83 posts since 20 May, 2009
I think this is my first post!
Can somebody be kind to clear a few things up (im a newbie who has Komplete 5 coming in the post)
I love the idea of firing up one App to access all my Komplete presets and more but unsure of the followin:
1) Controller - this sounds worth the price alone for me if it can control all the Native Instrument parameters as I hate fiddling with the mouse. Are all parameters easy to play with? Can you control everything as I presume on some plugins there will be many more things to tweak then knobs. I guess there is like a bank up kinda feature to control most things??
2) I see that the upcoming Kore update makes the Kore controller usable as a generic MIDI controller - does this mean I can put it in some kind of native mode and able to use the play/rec/rewind/forward etc to control my Logic transport controls?? This would be great for me as I dont see myself going down a physical mixer route and would kill tow birds with one stone as otherwise im thinking of getting a small transport controller
3) Can Omnisphere patches be integrated into Kore??
4) Controlling parameters of 3rd party plugins - is there some kind of learn feature or do you map everything yourself?
5) Is it CPU / RAM intensive
Cheers
Paul
Can somebody be kind to clear a few things up (im a newbie who has Komplete 5 coming in the post)
I love the idea of firing up one App to access all my Komplete presets and more but unsure of the followin:
1) Controller - this sounds worth the price alone for me if it can control all the Native Instrument parameters as I hate fiddling with the mouse. Are all parameters easy to play with? Can you control everything as I presume on some plugins there will be many more things to tweak then knobs. I guess there is like a bank up kinda feature to control most things??
2) I see that the upcoming Kore update makes the Kore controller usable as a generic MIDI controller - does this mean I can put it in some kind of native mode and able to use the play/rec/rewind/forward etc to control my Logic transport controls?? This would be great for me as I dont see myself going down a physical mixer route and would kill tow birds with one stone as otherwise im thinking of getting a small transport controller
3) Can Omnisphere patches be integrated into Kore??
4) Controlling parameters of 3rd party plugins - is there some kind of learn feature or do you map everything yourself?
5) Is it CPU / RAM intensive
Cheers
Paul
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- KVRian
- 766 posts since 22 Mar, 2007 from Punta Gorda, Florida USA
Kore with some of the sound packages is a bargain. My only complaint is the File/Load Sound function disapears when inside of a host - standalone only.
- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
Your life will never be the same...kultschar wrote:I think this is my first post!![]()
You have multiple pages that you navigate through via the cursor on the controller. There's two sets of pages- user (editable, and recordable as automation in your host) and plugin (all parameters in the order that they present themselves). The user pages for NI plugins have EA (easy access) pages that cover the most commonly tweaked parameters for that plugin on one or two pages.1) Controller - this sounds worth the price alone for me if it can control all the Native Instrument parameters as I hate fiddling with the mouse. Are all parameters easy to play with? Can you control everything as I presume on some plugins there will be many more things to tweak then knobs. I guess there is like a bank up kinda feature to control most things??
You'll more than likely start creating your own pages; it's easy to do, and you'll have things where you want them.
If you can assign Logic's transport to MIDI or MCU controllers- yep. Note however that the update won't support HUI emulation if you're using MCU.2) I see that the upcoming Kore update makes the Kore controller usable as a generic MIDI controller - does this mean I can put it in some kind of native mode and able to use the play/rec/rewind/forward etc to control my Logic transport controls?? This would be great for me as I dont see myself going down a physical mixer route and would kill tow birds with one stone as otherwise im thinking of getting a small transport controller
Can you use them in Kore? Sure.
3) Can Omnisphere patches be integrated into Kore??
Can you do batch import? No- Omnisphere doesn't follow .fxb/.fxp convention; .fxb must be supported by the plugin for batch import. You'll have to do it one at a time.
It's learn. Select the Kore control, hit assign and then learn, and move the corresponding control in your plugin. You can map multiple controllers to the same destination and one controller to many, each with different ranges.4) Controlling parameters of 3rd party plugins - is there some kind of learn feature or do you map everything yourself?
Depends what's loaded into it. Kore empty runs about 1% of one core on my machine.5) Is it CPU / RAM intensive
ew
A spectral heretic...
- KVRAF
- 2674 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from The Void
If I have Kore 2, and Kontakt 3 - Can I use the Kontakt effect modules in a chain... so, route audio into kore and through any of the Kontakt 3 effects (convolution reverb for example) and then back out ?
- KVRAF
- 9217 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from Pequot Lakes, MN
No. Kontakt doesn't have audio ins.koalaboy wrote:If I have Kore 2, and Kontakt 3 - Can I use the Kontakt effect modules in a chain... so, route audio into kore and through any of the Kontakt 3 effects (convolution reverb for example) and then back out ?
ew
A spectral heretic...
