Record: New DAW from Propellerheads
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
I don't even think it's that. I think it's just that people who buy music software, and who never use any of it to make any actual music worth listening to, feel the need to do something with it. And so this culture of X vs Y evolves as a natural consequence. Sort of like the way that people who take association football games really seriously, but who can't actually play football very well, join hooligan firms.blank/diod wrote:Ever seen a Mac vs PC debate?LawrenceF wrote:Here we are approaching page 81 and I still don't know why...
1. People feel so strongly about a product that is obviously not going to be of any use to them.
2. People feel the need to repeatedly point out so-called flaws in a product that (according to them) can't compete with products they already use.
Whet is the point exactly? Like me, just *don't buy it*. You can't and shouldn't own everything anyway.
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
I know "football" means soccer here but as an American and a fan of the worst (*real*:hihi:) football team in the history of time... The Detroit Lions... I think I'll cry now...herodotus wrote:Sort of like the way that people who take association football games really seriously, but who can't actually play football very well, join hooligan firms.
... first team to ever go 0-16 in a season.
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- KVRAF
- 7489 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
Mixing in a Mac vs PC debate is hugely misleading... because Reason (and no doubt Record) is equally stable, easy to use, and - let's face it - sexy on either platform 
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- KVRAF
- 6519 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from UK
You can only presume that after 80 odd pages the smug shill figures his job is done and it's about time to turn the thread to shit. Fair enough.headquest wrote:Mixing in a Mac vs PC debate is hugely misleading... because Reason (and no doubt Record) is equally stable, easy to use, and - let's face it - sexy on either platform
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stephenpaulharper stephenpaulharper https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=73921
- KVRian
- 778 posts since 4 Jul, 2005 from Atlanta
Not much of a student of human nature, eh? Threads like this are all over the place. Like it or not, this is big industry news and tongues are going to wag. Believe me, I've heard plenty of people prattle on about SONAR who don't own it, don't plan on owning it, and don't know anything about it. Never bothers me, it goes with the territory. Why should the Props to be entitled to any kind of immunity from this sorta thing?LawrenceF wrote:Here we are approaching page 81 and I still don't know why...
1. People feel so strongly about a product that is obviously not going to be of any use to them.
2. People feel the need to repeatedly point out so-called flaws in a product that (according to them) can't compete with products they already use.
Whet is the point exactly? Like me, just *don't buy it*. You can't and shouldn't own everything anyway.
I don't get it. Approaching 100 pages...
People are pissed that the next big thing from a major player excludes them. No matter what software you use, most people are always open to something that may be bigger and better and improve their workflow.
No mystery here really - I imagine this thread will keep going until the program is old hat.
SONAR threads sure have.
Steve
Windows 10, Reaper
- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
I'm an American too, and I find soccer to be the most boring game ever conceived. I was just being 'international' for the benefit of our hosts.LawrenceF wrote:I know "football" means soccer here but as an American and a fan of the worst (*real*:hihi:) football team in the history of time... The Detroit Lions... I think I'll cry now...herodotus wrote:Sort of like the way that people who take association football games really seriously, but who can't actually play football very well, join hooligan firms.
... first team to ever go 0-16 in a season.
And yeah, the Lions suck. Even worse than the Vikings. And that is saying something.
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Well Reason pretty much invented alot of these dance (or house) music genres. Stuff like d'n'b and bassline is pretty much all done in Reason. Propellerheads is huge in those circles.Snofokk wrote:@Zion7
Seriously nobody cares about how you and your friends cant make phat trancein Reason.
Reason wasn't made for trance or euro house producers anyways. Go use Nexus and leave us alone.
So I guess I have to disagree with you there mate lol!
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
- KVRAF
- 2674 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from The Void
Ruh-roh....v1o wrote:Well Reason pretty much invented alot of these dance (or house) music genres. Stuff like d'n'b and bassline is pretty much all done in Reason.
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- KVRist
- 408 posts since 16 Jan, 2007
I'm on the side of which fence now?jmh wrote:It was obvious from the beginning on which side of the fence you're on.blank/diod wrote:Ever seen a Mac vs PC debate?
I use both Mac and PC and have no particular loyalty towards either platform, they both have their pros and cons. So that can't be it.
I use both Record(beta)/Reason and Cubase 5 with VST plugs, so that can't be it either.
So which fence is that? Beer vs wine fans? Americans vs Europeans? Lost vs Heroes fans? Family Guy vs Simpsons fans? Coffee/tea? Big tits/small tits? Cats/dogs?
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
Its the person behind it, not the tools that matter the most. You could make phat beats in FastTracker if you really really wanted.zion7 wrote:well then. I am sorry that having an opinion on which software is better offends so many people. Especially when it comes from a long time previous Reason user. I came in this thread to discuss about Record. Sorry if my comments reminded you of how little your mommie loved you. I know I don't get offended if somebody slags a piece of software I use. Grow up people. Or don't and continue to resort to childish insults because your tiny ego is somehow linked to the program you use to make music.
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Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
blank/diod wrote:I'm on the side of which fence now?jmh wrote:It was obvious from the beginning on which side of the fence you're on.blank/diod wrote:Ever seen a Mac vs PC debate?
I use both Mac and PC and have no particular loyalty towards either platform, they both have their pros and cons. So that can't be it.
I use both Record(beta)/Reason and Cubase 5 with VST plugs, so that can't be it either.
So which fence is that? Beer vs wine fans? Americans vs Europeans? Lost vs Heroes fans? Family Guy vs Simpsons fans? Coffee/tea? Big tits/small tits? Cats/dogs?

Shit, we might hit 200 pages now...


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- KVRist
- 408 posts since 16 Jan, 2007
Yay!LawrenceF wrote:
Couple of questions about the rules, though.
I'm a liberal, which in the U.S. means I'm a left-winger, but in Europe it means I'm right-wing capitalist scum. Also, in Europe the color red is associatied with socialism/communism and blue is associated with conservatism/liberalism, while in the US, commie-red is the color of the right-wingers.
So... do I stand to the left or to the right, and which color is my team's flag?
To complicate matters further, I'm ambidextrous... I write with my left hand but play drums/bass/guitar like a right-handed person and I move the mouse between my left and right hand whenever either hand gets tired, so I'm still not sure whether I'm on the left or right team.
To complicate matters even further, I like both coffee and tea, both wine and beer, both Lost and Heroes, both Family Guy and Simpsons. And I hate both American football and soccer.
And then there's the platform thing... see, I use Windows in BootCamp on a Mac, where I rewire Reason to Cubase and use it along with VSTs. I do equal parts of freelance work both for companies inside the VST universe (IK, Toontrack, even Steinberg a couple of times) and outside it (Props)... so am I a Mac fanboy, a PC fanboy, a VST fanboy or a Reason fanboy in this smackdown?
Help!
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- KVRAF
- 6159 posts since 4 Dec, 2004
Coming out of the closet are we?blank/diod wrote:To complicate matters further, I'm ambidextrous... :
Do you play Cher records with your left or right hand?
"Not that there's anything wrong with that." - Seinfeld
