This product has been discontinued or is no longer sold.

[bk]

Couple of years ago? Podium is much easier to get into now.

Have a look at this recent getting started guide, it should help.

More tutorials can be found here.

Thanks. I'll give those a look!

[metamorphosis]

mackie set the standard for ease of automation curves in tracktion 3. That alone was a remarkable update.

Weird how they did that but left out an option for 'Move curves' (horizontally) - dumbest thing ever. The procedure for moving automations is so antiquated it's infuriating.
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[Graeme]

BTW, unemployment here (Spain) is running at 20% - you guys have a long way to go .

Oh no we don't.. In 1932 it was 23.6%.

That was 1932 - I'm talking today.

[hibidy]

BTW, unemployment here (Spain) is running at 20% - you guys have a long way to go .

Oh no we don't.. In 1932 it was 23.6%.

That was 1932 - I'm talking today.

we'll probably never be that high again, there will always be enough fast food and retail services to keep unemployment relatively low.

And on a serious note, 1932?

[tomg]

And on a serious note, 1932?

The great US depression started in 1929. WWII stated about 1939. The US entered the war in 1941, ending the great US depression. So 1932 fit's in there.

[tomg]

BTW, unemployment here (Spain) is running at 20% - you guys have a long way to go .

Oh no we don't.. In 1932 it was 23.6%.

That was 1932 - I'm talking today.

I know you mean today. I don't know much about Spain got here but it looks like you guys are screwed for maybe 2 more years. Nobody's even guessing how it's going to look next June. That's scary.

[UncleAge]

BTW, unemployment here (Spain) is running at 20% - you guys have a long way to go .

Oh no we don't.. In 1932 it was 23.6%.

That was 1932 - I'm talking today.

Not to get all technical but we don't have that far to go to catch up at all. Our gov reports unemployment based on the number of people that file for unemployment benefits. These bene's run out after 6 months in most states. So the gov is not counting those that can't find work and no longer qualify for bene's. Considering the number of people losing their jobs each month and the lack of new jobs being created, a conservative estimate of around 15-16% unemployment in the U.S. is probably more correct than the +9% that they talk about on the news.

[tomg]

Considering the number of people losing their jobs each month and the lack of new jobs being created, a conservative estimate of around 15-16% unemployment in the U.S. is probably more correct than the +9% that they talk about on the news.

True.. true but until we see 10% on the news it's not happening. We are so stupid it's scary.

[headquest]

Very sad to hear about Loud Tech's and Tracktion 3's plight.

Communication with users was never a huge strength since Mackie bought up Tracktion, but even so its a real shame that those who continued to believe in and use Tracktion have been - and still are being - left in the dark so long. Bad form, even under the difficult circumstances.

That said I still think that Tracktion has been a huge success overall - in the years since it came along and challenged the way recording/sequencing then was, there has been a noticeable shift with all the main sequencers trying to improve the user experience. So I would say that Tracktion has had a huge influence in recent years, and that making music with computers has become a much more pleasant and accessible thing to do as a result... so Kudos to Tracktion and to Jules for that

[tomg]

So I would say that Tracktion has had a huge influence in recent years, and that making music with computers has become a much more pleasant and accessible thing to do as a result... so Kudos to Tracktion and to Jules for that

That's for sure. T2 despite a few little things is still a very nice program. You never know anything for sure until it happens but I gotta think they will eventually sell it to somebody. After that who knows?

The buyer could just want the code for something else and not market the product but maybe not. For example: I'm not sure how it all happened but Passport got sold to GVox and you can still buy Master Tracks Pro. How many copies they sell at $99 bucks is anyone's guess but it is still for sale.

[schlachtzeuger]

gas. People forgot what it was like to pay 40 bucks for a fill up on a compact.....here we are again. It's about 2.95 a gallon here again, and it is just going up up up UP!

OMG, you must get poor over there... my deepest sympathy. If I was calculating correctly gas is about 6.90 USD over here in Europe. Like Graeme said, you really really have still a long way to go.

[z_old_account]

The VST and Audio software market is simply overcrowded. Today it's difficult to sell even excellent products for a fair price.
Tracktion won't be the first company that will die because of the market saturation.

[christianmusicmaker]

The VST and Audio software market is simply overcrowded. Today it's difficult to sell even excellent products for a fair price.
Tracktion won't be the first company that will die because of the market saturation.

Agreed.

I suspect the more polished, reliable and stable products out there might do better than lesser refined products. With so much crossover and feature duplication with VST's, VSTi's and Hosts now, I really think quality and reliability are becoming much more important for buyers.

That does not solve the crowded nature of the market but I think it does make more of a difference to buyers now.

Product support (communication, bug fixing and feature development) are another set of key factors that are probably much more important than they were perhaps 2 or 3 years ago.

If devs can throw in some real innovative ideas as well they could stand out from the crowd. Either way it does not look like it is getting any easier to stay afloat for devs. Possible...but not easy.

[metamorphosis]

That said I still think that Tracktion has been a huge success overall - in the years since it came along and challenged the way recording/sequencing then was, there has been a noticeable shift with all the main sequencers trying to improve the user experience. So I would say that Tracktion has had a huge influence in recent years, and that making music with computers has become a much more pleasant and accessible thing to do as a result... so Kudos to Tracktion and to Jules for that

+1. THank you Jules -
maybe he'll get the rights reverted back to him... well, that'd be wishful but grateful thinking...
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[Professor Al]

You're seriously asking that here and expect a sensible answer?

Freeware VSTs: bini & dandelion : http://garyg.mediashift.net

Gar, that mediashift link doesn't seem to do anything at my end.