Tracktion Software

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:22 am

Still not willing to repeat the abuse, coward?

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:24 am

It's ok, you can risk it poppet. I'm sure a mod will get between us before I do too much damage.

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:25 am

nuffink wrote:Still not willing to repeat the abuse, coward?

Now you're calling people names? Let it go man.. Jesus dude. What's the big deal?

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:27 am

hibidy wrote:I hope you were not the only who was warned

As far as I know it was just me. Hey, no biggie. It's just another tool now. Rules apply to everyone.

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:29 am

tomg wrote:
nuffink wrote:Still not willing to repeat the abuse, coward?
Now you're calling people names? Let it go man.. Jesus dude. What's the big deal?

It's just possible that poppet is an endearment. However, don't quote me on this.

thecontrolcentre · Post by **thecontrolcentre** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:30 am

tomg wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
nuffink wrote:But your thickos are so much louder, cockier and proud of their ignorance than ours.

But those are Scottish people ...

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:30 am

tomg wrote:
nuffink wrote:Still not willing to repeat the abuse, coward?
Now you're calling people names? Let it go man.. Jesus dude. What's the big deal?

Yeah, you're right. The coward's not going to repeat it and it's late. I'm off to bed.

willowhaus · Post by **willowhaus** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:52 pm

lharless wrote:I wonder how Mackie is going to march into the digital future, knowing that they will have to, eventually, develop or at least market another recording and editing app? <snip>

Honestly, I think that the last part of that statement is pure supposition. Who says they have to develop/market any standalone software at all? Of all the big DAW companies out there, ProTools is the only one actually tied to hardware.

OK, there is Logic too - but that's a bit of an anomaly, imho. Actually, Apple would be a good metaphor here: Microsoft sells software. Dell, HP, etc. sell hardware. Each of them exists fine without delving into the other market.

I think Mackie was trying to jump into that software market, and I'd venture that they found that it didn't really serve them as well as their primary focus did. More than offering just another product, they were suddenly opening another business with a whole different set of needs to address. That, and given that there is enormous competition with other software-focused companies for a piece of a niche market, probably turned out to be more difficult to monetize than they had anticipated.

Anyway - it would be nice to see Tracktion open-sourced, or sold to someone who cares enough to fix all the crap that was half-done and keep developing it. I liked it quite a bit while I had it, despite being too drag-and-drop oriented for my tastes.

Now, I'm happily in the Live/REAPER camps. But hey - it's all good. Make music. Use whatever allows you to do so.

mcnelson · Post by **mcnelson** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:43 pm

7 pages of speculation, 3 pages of socio-political commentary and about a page of abuse; it's nice to see some action around here; this thread needs more Ron though.

Kudos for the graphs; not enough of them on KVR.

thoshu · Post by **thoshu** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:59 pm

mcnelson wrote:7 pages of speculation, 3 pages of socio-political commentary and about a page of abuse;

therefore: B U M P

eduardo_b · Post by **eduardo_b** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:34 pm

It's entirely possible that Mackie has decided to not offer physical distribution of Tracktion any longer, which is vastly more expensive than download-only sales. Once the boxed versions are sold out at retailers, obtaining the host would be limited to online distribution.

Just a theory, mind you.

jas · Post by **jas** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:52 pm

It's on sale today $99.99 at Musician's Friend.

http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/pr ... B&ZYXSEM=0

But I'd have to say, that at $60.00 for a non-commercial license, Reaper is a far better purchase.

http://www.reaper.fm/

It's alive, and developing, and they actually care and communicate with their users!

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:31 pm

That is one thing I'd like to give a

for, reaper is a pretty good forum. I just can't get my head around the program

ModuLR · Post by **ModuLR** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 12:40 am

one a positive note, Juce has been maintained well--a constant evolution. The plugin host demo that's part of the framework even supports AU. An open source project could spawn off of that.

valley · Post by **valley** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:28 pm

ModuLR wrote:one a positive note, Juce has been maintained well--a constant evolution. The plugin host demo that's part of the framework even supports AU. An open source project could spawn off of that.

And it'd probably get bogged down in exactly the same place that Jules did with Tracktion; the plugin support. It's hard enough getting NFRs when you're a company the size of Mackie, as an independent dev, it's nigh on impossible, but in an open source community? Forget it.

Which means that no matter how great the software, it'll be buggy as hell as soon as the user installs any 3rd party plugins.

Also, someone would need to persuade Mackie to at least release details on the proprietary parts of T project files.

Re the last few days of this thread... WTF? This isn't HPC.

Tracktion Software

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