KVR Audio

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:07 pm

There's a category of synths for me that are perpetually dark horses. I'll forget about them for a while, then fire them up and am blown away because it seems even more awesome then when I first was convinced to buy it.

Speaking for myself at least, I think there are so many very good synths available in software that it's easy to take them for granted. Kubik is one of the stronger ones in that category.

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:25 pm

Kubik is an incredible beast with immense modulation-possibilities - and especially with wavetable-synthesis it's all about modulation.

Think about it:

The wavetable has several slots and each slot contains a waveform. Now the speciality of wavetable-synthesis is to blend from one waveform to the other.
While this explanation of mine may be a trivial repetition of facts it's important to think about it for a moment. The oscillators are not static as with a simple substractive synth - au contraire they can constantly change and morph.

'it's all about modulation'

With this I mean (amongst other things) the way in which the morphing happens.* The more control you have over this the more powerful and flexible the wavetable-synth is - and Kubik is really incredible in this regard. I will give you that it might be a bit intimidating at start, but the interface is very cleanly and logically laid out. Getting familiar with it is ultimately very rewarding.

Conclusion:

if it is really wavetable-synthesis (a la PPG) what you're after, then Kubik will have to be it, if you consider it objectively - simply because it is the most most of all available wavetable-synthesizers, be it hard- or software.

And no, Jon doesn't pay me for saying so.

*the same could of course be said about FM by the way, albeit the waveform-morph happens in a completely different way.

fceramic · Post by **fceramic** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:06 pm

Well Komplexor just disappeared off the face of the entire universe! I tried looking for it several times after hearing rage on the forum and I can't find anything about it, they don't even have a website!

I would say that Kubik is better just because it got support and a AU version.

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:24 pm

What is KUBIK? Is this something from UH-E? Im not clued up on all software coming from a hardware background.

Rob

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:29 pm

rob_lee wrote:What is KUBIK? Is this something from UH-E? Im not clued up on all software coming from a hardware background.

Rob

look here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1223.html
http://www.concretefx.com/Kubik.htm
http://www.concretefx.com//KubikDetails.htm

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:34 pm

Wow i just listened to the mp3 demo.. it's only 55 euro aswell

definatley a one for the future.
Very nice whoever concrete fx is...respect

Rob

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:37 pm

Well I think Kubik's GUI is definitely better. Largo's GUI looks like Waldorf just drew it on paper and then scanned it...

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:42 pm

djanthonyw wrote:Well I think Kubik's GUI is definitely better. Largo's GUI looks like Waldorf just drew it on paper and then scanned it...

Lol Anth Largo has the best GUI on any synth

Rob

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:44 pm

You actually like Largo's GUI better than Minimonsta's?

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:44 pm

rob_lee wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:Well I think Kubik's GUI is definitely better. Largo's GUI looks like Waldorf just drew it on paper and then scanned it...
Lol Anth Largo has the best GUI on any synth

Rob

+1

OK, Massive and FabFilter Twin 2 are also nice...

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:46 pm

Personally, I think Strobe from the Synth Squad has the best GUI.

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:53 pm

djanthonyw wrote:You actually like Largo's GUI better than Minimonsta's?

Yes i do.. Minimonsta has a nice GUI but it's a bit oblong/dark and small but the sound is pure class..Larg's GUI is some size aswell but easier to get around and better looking.

Rob

telephone · Post by **telephone** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:53 pm

BFunKu wrote:Terratec Komplexor is way better than Kubik.

Yes ofcourse...

But i love Kubik...

telephone · Post by **telephone** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:56 pm

rob_lee wrote:Wow i just listened to the mp3 demo.. it's only 55 euro aswell definatley a one for the future.
Very nice whoever concrete fx is...respect

Rob

So funny that people don't know Concretefx. It is starting to get a name like Waldorf have built, but then for software synths.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 7:56 pm

Concretefx wrote:I could say, buy Kubik and make me lots of money , but I suppose I better not (where is my sock puppet when a need it )

Largo VS Kubik 2.5