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zvenx wrote:Naively or otherwise I think Massive is its closest competitor.
I much prefer the look of Massive and the whole GUI including patch organising etc....but I prefer the sound of Largo.... However there is no way I can justify the current price. At the very least it needs to be at the same price as Massive for me to consider buying it. But thanks for the demo, allows us to find out for ourselves first hand.

rsp
I guess you are mostly right. I own both and like them both. Massive has a better patch browser and many more soundbanks are available. Sound wise i like Largo more at the moment which doesn't mean Massive is bad. For programming patches Largos GUI is as least as good if not better than Massive's. Massive is even more CPU hungry than Largo (yes, Largo is CPU hungry when you use the all features), that's Massives biggest downside.

The price is no big difference, 199 Euros for Largo and 189 Euros for Massive at Largo. If you count that the Largo CD contains the Waldorf Edition LE they are equal in that point.

It's difficult to find a specific reason to buy Largo if you already own Massive but i guess it's all about the sound. If you like the Waldorf sound and want to recreate some sounds of the Waldorf hardware this is a must have, if mot stay with Massive. Another serious contender for Largo is Kubik which has an insane high amount of features for the wavetable modulation. Besides having all Waldorf wavetables Kubik doesn't sound like a Waldorf if that's what you're up to (i only checked the demo of Kubik 2.5 but that should be enough).
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for instance at audiomidi.com, massive is $199 and Largo $249.....20% more or 25% more depending on how you look at it.
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zvenx wrote:for instance at audiomidi.com, massive is $199 and Largo $249.....20% more or 25% more depending on how you look at it.
rsp
Prices on Thomann:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/native_instrum ... sive_e.htm
The english Massive is 180 € and the german version 179 €. Don't know the difference since my german version is english in the plugin texts.

http://www.thomann.de/gb/waldorf_largo.htm
Largo is 189 € at Thomann.

199$ for Massive is a good prize if in germany it would be calculated with the right €:$ rate (1.4:1 at the moment). That would be around 142 € at the moment. 249$ for Largo would be 178 €.
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can t load the demo in cubase 5 , largo not showing up in the vsti list anyone know how to fix that? thanks in advance

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Igro wrote:
indeed
Agreed. We pay all Apple products 1:1 which means for 1000 $ in US we pay 1000 € which would be 1400$ when calulated with the exchange course. This makes Apple computer the most expensive here in Germany. Another reason why the market of apple computers is quite small in Germany. For my 16,4" Sony VAIO notebook which has the same or even better features than a MacBook Pro i paid 300 € less than for the 15" MacBook Pro.
A notebook from cheaper companies costs around the half of the MacBook Pro.

That's why many people try to buy Apple products in the US and bring them to Europe. Then they get caught at the airport and have to pay tax which ends up in the same price like in Europe... :shock: :shock:
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WMP wrote:1 osc from a simple little synth doing a solid bass sound.

Probably not everyones cup of tea but this is how I like my simple bass sounds. Bear in mind it is only 1 osc with no eq or compression.

Very short 24bit 44khz file

http://www.mediafire.com/?mmzzz2tykgo
I tried a single osc bass in Largo also, used a pure square wave, 24 db LP filter and filter distortion (type "Pickup 1"), here's the result as a wave file to download:

Largo 1 OSC Bass

I think it is not that bad?

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JKervinen wrote:
JPQ wrote:i want know if largo saw and pulse waves sounds same than Blofeld ? and i ask also this for filtter ? i found some nice sounding patch (i mean saw and pulse sounds nice in these patches) what uses these waves and of course of filter. but this seems very cpu hungry plugin.:( (so hungry i cannot use this plugin anything) but currently i know synths what i like much more. ps. i only test now with demo version but still. ps. also this feature makes my very angry why even today most of softsynths lfo rates are not hz and time values are also in ms. in these synths what i like i think time values are human understandable. Even nicest (at least to me) analog emulations have this.
they might sound the same, or not. buy blofeld and largo.

there are no situation where software sounds the same as hardware.

in my system, largo isn't eating up resourses at all, when using all 4 parts.
Actually i dont like largo presets what i testet. and i cannot buy both.:)
and current money situation blofeld is pricey what is actually shame.

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Okay, after making some dual-layered-arpeggio stuff, I can say that I'd like to see GLOBAL effects and some Macro controls in this synth. So I can manage every important things from one page, without swapping pages like crazy... :D
Massive is a tested, more mature product with a stable community, unlike Largo, which just started to develop. In this beginning stage, I think the users' ideas and inspections worth a bit more. So stop yanking, and say what's wrong Exactly, cause the developers may consider changing/adding/improving it.
I dunno why do you still argue about everything though... :P
Just let its Sound do the talking: http://www.synthmaster.com/

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Yeah, I'm aware of that. The problem is the sync'd values are ridiculous. WAY too many values, and very strange ones at that. And then the bizarre omission of 3/16ths. It just gives a bad, unpolished impression. Seriously what delay can't do 3/16ths?

I'll list a few rates from the plugin, in between 1/8th and 1/4th.
17/128
13/64T
9/64
19/128
5/32
1/8T
11/128

Actually, I can't list them in order because the mouse keeps jumping. Literally if you move the knob a pixel it will change values, but its unpredictable whether it moves up or down.

Anyway, I'm not avant-garde enough to understand the use of a 13/64T synced-delay
:hihi:
Ingonator wrote: If you turn off the "Clock" button you can use "normal" values like 0...127. With "Clock" turned on you sync the value to the hosts rate. This also corresponds to other features which have that "Clock" button.

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the delay can do 3/16 its just called something else if i m right

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I agree with that 100%. Macro controls are necessary for a synth of this complexity.
rectus_dominus wrote:Okay, after making some dual-layered-arpeggio stuff, I can say that I'd like to see GLOBAL effects and some Macro controls in this synth. So I can manage every important things from one page, without swapping pages like crazy... :D
Massive is a tested, more mature product with a stable community, unlike Largo, which just started to develop. In this beginning stage, I think the users' ideas and inspections worth a bit more. So stop yanking, and say what's wrong Exactly, cause the developers may consider changing/adding/improving it.
I dunno why do you still argue about everything though... :P

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Actually, I can't list them in order because the mouse keeps jumping. Literally if you move the knob a pixel it will change values, but its unpredictable whether it moves up or down.
You can type the value with the keyboard :wink:

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Jeremy_NSL wrote:I agree with that 100%. Macro controls are necessary for a synth of this complexity.
rectus_dominus wrote:Okay, after making some dual-layered-arpeggio stuff, I can say that I'd like to see GLOBAL effects and some Macro controls in this synth. So I can manage every important things from one page, without swapping pages like crazy... :D
Massive is a tested, more mature product with a stable community, unlike Largo, which just started to develop. In this beginning stage, I think the users' ideas and inspections worth a bit more. So stop yanking, and say what's wrong Exactly, cause the developers may consider changing/adding/improving it.
I dunno why do you still argue about everything though... :P
So if you want to bring your bug fixes/proposals to the right address here are some links:

1.) Waldorf forum

http://www.waldorf-forum.com/cgi-bin/ma ... user-forum
http://www.waldorf-forum.com/pipermail/ ... html#20155
http://www.waldorf-forum.com/pipermail/user-forum/

2.) Waldorf Music

support@waldorfmusic.de
bugs@waldorfmusic.de
wolfram@franke.net (Wolfram Franke is the developer of Largo)
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