Uhbik-D - Confusion

[SayersWeb]

Hmmm... just purchased Uhbik, hoping to replace the delay and reverb external effects that I currently use in my Yamaha mixer.

I've not used a multi-tap delay before and find Uhbik-D confusing. It seems very different from setting delay using song tempo and note divisions, which is what I am used to. Is there a way to set Uhbik-D delay values this way? Or can someone hit me over the head so that I might understand this?

I have read through the manual a couple of times... and have played with the plug-in, but honestly have no clue what I am doing. Maybe I need a Uhbik-D dumb mode that acts more like a typical delay.

Thanks!

Sayer

[Urs]

It's easy, really

The knobs on the top row on the right hand side set the taps in 16th notes. Set it to 2 and you get an 1/8th note. Set it to 4 to get a delay of a quarter note.

The big knob on the bottom left sets the overall speed, so it *multiplies* the settings of the individual delays. It's best to leave it in the middle position to get started.

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For most classical delay effects you will need only 2 taps. One panned left, one panned right. You will also only need one tap for the feedback.

[SayersWeb]

Thank you for the reply... the light bulb in my brain is starting to glow. So, a dotted 8th note would be 3 and a dotted quarter note 6?

Does it matter which tap is used for the feedback? Not sure I understand that. My hardware delay has a separate feedback setting for each side of the stereo delay effect.

Thanks again!

[Urs]

Yes, 6 x 16 would be a dotted quarter!

The thing about Uhbik-D is that it is specifically *not* a stereo delay. It's merely like a classic tape delay or ping-pong delay. Think Roland's line of Tape Echo effects. That means, the input signal is summed to mono and fed into a single tape/delay. It's like a tape with 1 write head and 5 read heads. Moving the read heads around changes the length of each echo, and so does changing the tape speed.

The funny thing about "real" stereo delays is that only a few can do real ping-pong. Ping-pong delays are *always* based on a mono delay. Stereo delays that try to do ping-pong always have a tap that appears in the center, when both sides "tap together". Real ping-pong delays only have taps that go left - right - left - right without ever going to the center. That's why Uhbik-D is what it is, and I think it's the only delay of its kind that can place 5 taps in a surround fashion

But fear not, Uhbik-X (whenever it's finished) will add stereo delay.

Cheers,

Urs

[SayersWeb]

Oh that's good news... We'll have the best of both delay approaches with Uhbik-X!

Thank you so much for the detailed explanations... I now understand about the ping-pong being a mono delay... and how the timing works.

I've been playing around with Uhbik-D and Uhbik-A and the magic is really starting to happen. Sounds great, and I feel quite comfortable about not using the external hardware effects.

Thanks again,

Sayer

[Urs]

Great

[MitchK1989]

I think I understand uhbik-D a lot better after reading this too.

I managed to twist uhbik-T into doing crazy whammy bar style but tape sounding pitch bombs in the middle of guitar lines, but programming uhbik-D had eluded me until now.

[Urs]

D is actually the easiest plugin IMHO. Maybe I should have put on some visuaqls with a tape loop, movable read heads, an output mixer and a multiplexer for the feedback path...

When you think about it, the unique thing is the ability to create feedback from a tap that is actually silent in the mix. To see what I mean, just make tap 5 the feedback tap, set its volume to 0.00 and its sync to 7.23 sixteenth (or some other odd value). Now add feedback and see how the iterations drift off veen though you have proper 8th and what not in the first taps of the delay.

This way you can e.g. play quarter notes on a guitar and have delays of 1/8th and 3/16th which despite feedback will never play together with your quarters. That is because you have a silent tap on 1/4th which only does the feedback. Once you have the -effect this is awesome. Because you can possibly make delays that don't clutter your mix. They can play in the gaps around your notes. Depending on the lines though, of course...

I guess I must eventually make a video for that...

Urs

[Polybius]

I'm really loving Uhbik-D, i'm a delay nut and this one if my favourite of the pack! It's slowly replacing Retrodelay and Tal Dub II. Altough i'll keep both of those for the filter effects (boy i love it when you push the filter resonance on the TAL delay, and it starts making those noisy chewy sounds ).

The wow/flutter on the Uhbik-D is a great touch for those authentic sounding delay lines!

[MitchK1989]

BTW Urs, I absolutely LOVE the sound of uhbik-D (the wow and flutter, tweaking the speed control manually, etc. ) it's just that I'm embarrassed to say I've only been using it as a single tap most of the time

[Silaris]

Thanks for the information. I was somewhat unclear about the delay settings, as well.

[SayersWeb]

I'm glad I wasn't the only one... felt a bit foolish when submitting the original post.

I'm really amazed by the sound quality of both the delay and reverb. Great stuff!

Thanks for the information. I was somewhat unclear about the delay settings, as well.

[pough]

D is actually the easiest plugin IMHO.

Yes and no, IMHO. It's perhaps easiest once you figure out that Important Setting B is strongly affected by Important Setting A even though it's not obvious visually. But now you've got me wanting to go mess around with it...