developers.. live MIDI performance VST (Zyklus/Direct)

[xoxos]

the front end is very 'compact' in a 'hardware era' paradigm.. i'm thinking there's a ~'mileu divide' as the features can be found on various plugins today.

[bronswerk]

ok, made my own zyklus improvisor in max/msp.
it's still a work in progress, but I can record short patterns on the fly, loop instantly and use chordrecognition to modulate to other keyscales, everything in realtime.
the "professionals" failed miserably in mine opinion
how can I upload a screenshot??

[lung]

Great work..

[omissis]

ok, made my own zyklus improvisor in max/msp.
it's still a work in progress, but I can record short patterns on the fly, loop instantly and use chordrecognition to modulate to other keyscales, everything in realtime.
the "professionals" failed miserably in mine opinion
how can I upload a screenshot??

JUST DO IT!

[plastique]

So how does it look like ?

Wasn't there some way to upload images to some host like imageshack directly from posting a reply to a topic at KVR ? It could have been just temporary though Then you still have those image hosting site options (and then just post the image url inside img tags here)

[omissis]

[edit]
I was posting the same instructions as you did, plastique, so one post is enough. We're waiting, Bronswerk.
Also if you like beta testing, drop me a pm

[amiga909]

tkx for the manual link, didnt know the zyklus!
-- u still hear me, 3 y. later?

will study it for new ideas, already spotted some very nice ideas.

yeah, a vst would be kewl. yet, i'd like to have a full blown piano roll for editing nowadays.

[bronswerk]

ok, here's a screenshot, not all the functions are implemented yet but what does work is:

-record and playback of sequences
-each slot has 4 layers for storing sequences
-sequencer OR arpeggiator mode of each slot
-recorded sequences can act as a "driver" for arpeggiatiors
-chordrecognition for changing to other keyscales with respect to the indivudual notes inside the chord, meaning a 'c-e-g' chord produces a different result then a 'e-g-c' chord, also the voicing of a chord (wide, narrow etc) has effect of the played sequences
-transpose (seperate fields for octave and semitones)
-relative tempo settings like x1,x2,x3,x1/2,1/4 etc for each slot
-led indicators for beat, begin loop, quantize trigger etc.

[maki]

Good!
Make an Youtube video so we can see it "in action"

[omissis]

killer! YouTube video wanted!

[maki]

Is chordrecognition based on an fingering system like in standard autoaccompaniment keyboards...playing some chords on left keyboardsplit?

[plastique]

Impressive! You surely put a lot of works into it. I need to read the manual now to get an idea of what everything does.

[bronswerk]

Is chordrecognition based on an fingering system like in standard autoaccompaniment keyboards...playing some chords on left keyboardsplit?

The incoming chord is detected like a arranger would do, I think.
Hitting 2 notes like an c-e gives you a major scale, c-eb is minor, c-bb is minor seventh etc. The more notes the chord contains, the more accurate is the scale. The program understands more then 60 different chordtypes. If a chord is detected then the most appropiate scale (there are 28 scales inside the program) is used for "correcting" the running sequences.

But what I like most is that the voicing of a chord is a *major* part of how sequences responds to it. For example if I hit a chord with a low C, an octave above an E and octave about that a G, it's still a C major chord, but you will hear the original recorded sequence "stretched out". I hope you'll know what I mean. Please note that scaling is not perfect, if you record a sequence with a lot of chromatic notes the scaling will fail because it's diatonic based.

At the moment the chordinput is dedicated to a seperate keyboard, I use a little microKontrol from Korg for that. But using a split keyboard setting is not that hard to implement.

[maki]

Can you controll harmonisation of every single sequence with its own midicontroller or keyboardsplit?
Can you start sequencers independently or in sync?

[bronswerk]

Can you controll harmonisation of every single sequence with its own midicontroller or keyboardsplit?

No, at the moment I simply use a seperate midi in port for chordrecognition that applies to all sequences.

Can you start sequencers independently or in sync?

When you hit the Run button of a slot (not the System Run) the sequences will start in sync. There's a field called "Trig Q" in the mastersection to the right were you can set at what quantized value you can start. When it's set to "1/1" then sequences will start at beat 1 of a the next bar. If set to "1/4" it will start as soon as the next beat comes by. Value range is 1/16, 1/8, 1/4, 1/2 and 1/1.