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kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:21 pm

Ingonator wrote: So a "Delay" knob with a specific time would be nice but not absolutely necessary.

If we wanted to save an ADSR, yes in that case it would be necessary

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:44 pm

kv331 wrote:
Ingonator wrote: So a "Delay" knob with a specific time would be nice but not absolutely necessary.
If we wanted to save an ADSR, yes in that case it would be necessary

That's true.

BTW: Did you find my updated patches in my last post?

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:32 pm

Ingonator wrote:
I currently try to use the "Step" and "Glide" mode of the LFOs for wavetable modulation. This results in some interesting "wavesequencing" since you can choose any of the 16 waveforms of a wavetable(and between) at every step. With 16 or 32 steps this leads to interesting results.

Hey Ingo, you rock!

BTW, here's another tip: If you wanna change an LFO to a random S&H LFO, make it a "step" lfo, and max out the "randomize" parameter.

Each step is basicly multiplied by:

StepVolume = StepVolume * ( (1-randomize) + randomize * rnd() )

rnd() generates a random number between 0.0-1.0 above.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:41 pm

kv331 wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
I currently try to use the "Step" and "Glide" mode of the LFOs for wavetable modulation. This results in some interesting "wavesequencing" since you can choose any of the 16 waveforms of a wavetable(and between) at every step. With 16 or 32 steps this leads to interesting results.
Hey Ingo, you rock!

BTW, here's another tip: If you wanna change an LFO to a random S&H LFO, make it a "step" lfo, and max out the "randomize" parameter.

Each step is basicly multiplied by:

StepVolume = StepVolume * ( (1-randomize) + randomize * rnd() )

rnd() generates a random number between 0.0-1.0 above.

I just started to use the step modulation but i would never had the idea to use it that way. Very nice hint, again. I guess all those tips should be in the manual of the final version, right?

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:44 pm

Ingonator wrote: I just started to use the step modulation but i would never had the idea to use it that way. Very nice hint, again. I guess all those tips should be in the manual of the final version, right?

Of course!

I think it's gonna be easier for me to record a video tutorial first! I'm always slow at writing!

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:38 am

My new Synthmaster patches update (made with v1.9.9.9):

LINK DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

Now it contains some LFO- and LFO-Step-modulation of the wavetables. Contains 33 patches now. For better overview i included the date in the filename of the zip file.

jensa · Post by **jensa** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:43 am

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:58 am

Ingonator wrote:My new Synthmaster patches update (made with v1.9.9.8 ):

http://rapidshare.com/files/261677857/I ... .07.09.zip

Now it contains some LFO- and LFO-Step-modulation of the wavetables. Contains 33 patches now. For better overview i included the date in the filename of the zip file.

One patch had a default wavetable instead of the right one. Here is the corrected file: LINK DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

You could also load the corrected bank with all 33 patches:
LINK DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:51 pm

- BUG:
I am trying to transfer some bass patches from Sylenth1 to Synthmaster. This uses two layers so i also did it in Synthmaster.
When i switch Synthmaster from "Poly" to "Mono" mode the second layer is muted, means it does not produce sound anymore. Switching back to "Poly" everything is OK. Does this mean that "Mono" sounds can not be layered? Must be a bug.

UPDATE: The problem occurs when Layer 1 is set to "Mono". If Layer 2 is "Mono" and Layer 1 is "Poly" it works. Strange...

Here is a new Bass patch for testing this:
LINK DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

Try to set Layer 1 (or both) to "Mono" and Layer 2 will be muted.

- OTHER NEW PATCHES:
A second bass patch with only one layer but an additive OSC:

two bass patch with an ARP:

the same patch with "Mono" setting sounds different (more fat ?):

the first lead sound:

LINKS DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

- MY CURRENT 40 PATCHES BANK WITH ALL PATCHES FROM ABOVE:
LINK DELETED, ALL PATCHES INCLUDED IN SYNTHMASTER v1.9.9.10 AND MY LAST UPDATE FROM 1.8.2009.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:28 pm

Ingonator wrote: When i switch Synthmaster from "Poly" to "Mono" mode the second layer is muted, means it does not produce sound anymore. Switching back to "Poly" everything is OK. Does this mean that "Mono" sounds can not be layered? Must be a bug.

UPDATE: The problem occurs when Layer 1 is set to "Mono". If Layer 2 is "Mono" and Layer 1 is "Poly" it works. Strange...

If you check out the release notes, we still had that problemo!

Anyhow, I'll work on it tonight, as soon as I'm done with the microtune interface.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:35 pm

kv331 wrote:
Ingonator wrote: When i switch Synthmaster from "Poly" to "Mono" mode the second layer is muted, means it does not produce sound anymore. Switching back to "Poly" everything is OK. Does this mean that "Mono" sounds can not be layered? Must be a bug.

UPDATE: The problem occurs when Layer 1 is set to "Mono". If Layer 2 is "Mono" and Layer 1 is "Poly" it works. Strange...
If you check out the release notes, we still had that problemo!

Anyhow, I'll work on it tonight, as soon as I'm done with the microtune interface.

Sorry, i think i missed that somehow. The bass patches also work in poly mode. Most of the new bass patches only use one layer so no problem there.

Maybe you could include my new patch update in the new version. The latest one (40 patches) is at the end of my last post above.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:48 pm

Ingonator wrote: Maybe you could include my new patch update in the new version. The latest one (40 patches) is at the end of my last post above.

As long as you permit, of course I'd do that

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:58 pm

kv331 wrote:
Ingonator wrote: Maybe you could include my new patch update in the new version. The latest one (40 patches) is at the end of my last post above.
As long as you permit, of course I'd do that

No problem, at least the next version has some presets now.

I think that the possibilities of Synthmaster are almost endless and sometimes i feel i only scratched the surface.

BTW the same i could say about Largo which is the other synth i "explore" at the moment. Both synths complement each other quite well.

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:06 am

I found that in Ableton Live 8 the VST version does not save the selected patch with the project. Means that when i start a saved project with several instances all parts load with the default patch. If i didn't miss something obvious this is a serious bug.
Even if i select the patches in Live's patch browser all patches are default when loading the project.

UPDATE: When i select a patch with Synthmaster browser in Ableton Live the internal patch browser of Live always shows the first patch ("2 Osc Wavetable with Sync"). AFAIK most other synths which use an own browser deactivate the DAWs browser.

kv331 · Post by **kv331** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:12 am

Today I allocated all my time to SynthMaster. Will fix it!

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