The plan is to prove that a piece of software like this can work. Release? It's a personal project, and since it's made in Max/Msp, copy protection and such are not possible. If I feel it's stable enough I probably make the Max files public for free so anyone with Max/Msp can use it and add features (or completely overhaul it if they want to).MaxSynths wrote:Well this piece of software seems very interesting, really.
Sorry, didn't read the whole thread: what are the plans for the future? When will be released, how much it will cost?
developers.. live MIDI performance VST (Zyklus/Direct)
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 14 Apr, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Wow this is very generous from you!bronswerk wrote:If I feel it's stable enough I probably make the Max files public for free so anyone with Max/Msp can use it and add features (or completely overhaul it if they want to).
One more question: can controle external devices?
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 14 Apr, 2006
Sorry no, simply I don't have the knowledge to do so. It's already a daunting task to make it work stand alone. But midiclock synchronisation is on my to do list. An earlier version could be synced (with Ableton Live as master) with midiclock using MidiYoke as a pipeline. Worked pretty well.amiga909 wrote:very exciting project! thanks a lot for ur work.
any chance to turn this into a pluggo run-time vst?
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
No, I'm saying... I have 128 midi channel on my system with hardware stuff connected to them. Can I route the MIDI flow from your software to any MIDI port/channel? Also: your software can store different configurations that can be recalled by bank and program changes like in the later Direct box?bronswerk wrote:I'm not sure what you mean here, you mean with midi remotes controlling the program?MaxSynths wrote:One more question: can controle external devices?
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 14 Apr, 2006
There are input fields for setting the midi output port and midi channel for each slot, see the screenshot. Program changes are not working at the moment but there's already a input field reserved, see screenshot. Bank changes on the other hand are not that easy to implement because there are so many variations.MaxSynths wrote:No, I'm saying... I have 128 midi channel on my system with hardware stuff connected to them. Can I route the MIDI flow from your software to any MIDI port/channel? Also: your software can store different configurations that can be recalled by bank and program changes like in the later Direct box?bronswerk wrote:I'm not sure what you mean here, you mean with midi remotes controlling the program?MaxSynths wrote:One more question: can controle external devices?
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Bronswerk it seems you are doing a great job...bronswerk wrote:There are input fields for setting the midi output port and midi channel for each slot, see the screenshot. Program changes are not working at the moment but there's already a input field reserved, see screenshot. Bank changes on the other hand are not that easy to implement because there are so many variations.MaxSynths wrote:No, I'm saying... I have 128 midi channel on my system with hardware stuff connected to them. Can I route the MIDI flow from your software to any MIDI port/channel? Also: your software can store different configurations that can be recalled by bank and program changes like in the later Direct box?bronswerk wrote:I'm not sure what you mean here, you mean with midi remotes controlling the program?MaxSynths wrote:One more question: can controle external devices?
I understand bank changes can be difficult to implement, but it would be a great thing to have a maximum of 16384 slots to save "scenes".
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 22 Aug, 2009
nice work man , i have the zyklus here and yes its cool , mainly for the fact you can simply ' play ' step written sequences polyphonically.Someone should have made a zyklus vsti , its the most simple and yet powerfull composition tool i have or one .I cant find a software based Realtime phrase player and i think thats what the zyklus is in essence , only a polyphonic one.The Direct box is kind of beyond my knowledge but this and the zyklus are 2 of the great holes in the vsti market , along with a pc based notron thats polyphonically note triggerable and ' playable ' .Maybe a vsti Octopus ?i have one of those also but both it and the zyklus i would prefer in software now ! seriously , hardware a bind and also just so slow to use like this somedays , takes up room and cables and patching midi etc etc , someone needs to develope this end of the vsti market , era and alot of the sequencer / arps i try are naff.
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- KVRAF
- 13739 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
This would be really cool, to adapt it for: "MAX 4 LIVE", and the apc40.bronswerk wrote:I'm not sure what you mean here, you mean with midi remotes controlling the program?MaxSynths wrote:One more question: can controle external devices?
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 14 Apr, 2006
The chord recognitions problems I had seems to be over. I made some stupid design errors in Max. (wrong cable destinations 
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The "Dynamics" function is now working. Asume a sequence plays a simple "four on he floor" pattern, a note on every beat. Another sequence plays a more rhythmic pattern with certain notes between the beats. With a little matrix placed on the mastersection you can choose the destination of sending timing info from one sequence to another sequence. So the simple four on the floor pattern plays the same rhythmic variation as the other sequence if the matrix is set accordingly, but with the original notes. Also multiple sequences can have the same destination. If you then play with different loop lengths and relative tempo's...
(It only works between slots, not between layers of the same slot.)
)The "Dynamics" function is now working. Asume a sequence plays a simple "four on he floor" pattern, a note on every beat. Another sequence plays a more rhythmic pattern with certain notes between the beats. With a little matrix placed on the mastersection you can choose the destination of sending timing info from one sequence to another sequence. So the simple four on the floor pattern plays the same rhythmic variation as the other sequence if the matrix is set accordingly, but with the original notes. Also multiple sequences can have the same destination. If you then play with different loop lengths and relative tempo's...
(It only works between slots, not between layers of the same slot.)
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Glad to hear you solved the dynamics issue. Because of this tool I may decide to buy Max (is it Max what I need to use it?).
Just an OT question about Max: how can be integrated into the already existing music configuration? Using virtual MIDI cables is ok?
Just an OT question about Max: how can be integrated into the already existing music configuration? Using virtual MIDI cables is ok?
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- KVRist
- 261 posts since 14 Apr, 2006
That's how I use it all the time. I use Live as a host for VSTi instruments and use MidiYoke as a virtual midi pipeline between Max and Live. If I want "real" midi (as in hardware synths) I still use Live as a host (Max > MidiYoke > Live > hardware synth).MaxSynths wrote: Just an OT question about Max: how can be integrated into the already existing music configuration? Using virtual MIDI cables is ok?