FAIL: cloning Orca patch

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fxpansion have a great little free vst. it's called orca and it's basically a one patch vst. tweaking is very limited (filter cutoff, res, att, dec and unison). velocity controls filter env amount.

www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=12&tab=60

thing is, i love the sound of this orca thing but i would really like to have such a patch in zebra so i can adjust pitch bend range, legato, aftertouch and whatnot.

yesterday night i tried to duplicate this thing in zebra (using a typical funky bass patch on orca with a little bit of attack on the filter env, moderate resonance, not too much unison) and i miserably FAILED. (i don't even include my results because they are way off.) :oops:

i tried with xmf and LP vintage, saw wave in osc1 and a second osc spaced apart an octave or a fifth...it's not it. the filter on orca does these sweet things when sweeping - is that filter saturation? or has it to do with osc wave forms and octave/5ths setting?

anybody got any clue? :)

(yeah, i know i could buy DCAM and look for a similar patch in strobe, but i thought why not try this in zebra first!)

[EDIT] Doh! just discovered this explanation page www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=45

i'll have a new go at it.
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Can you post the Orca patch? Or a .wav of it?

I'm frankly quite sure that the XMF in Z2.5 is as good as any other filter out there at a playable cpu demand, so don't worry...
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of course i don't worry...

...about zebra but yes, i do worry about my lacking sound-making abilities. :?

will export orca audio ASAP, i.e. when i am back at my musik computer and, if possible, the orca fxp.
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ok here it comes.

please excuse my sloppy playing - i defenitely need to practice tweaking and playing at the same time. i tried to show as many variations as possible of this same patch.


http://www.box.net/shared/hychkv6xu6


i hope 192 VBR mp3 is ok.

and this is the orca fxp (of course, i was constantly moving controllers, sometimes clearly out of control as you can hear, so this is not really "the patch" but more of a starting point)

http://www.box.net/shared/aaeyq0s78j

- i am back to zebra, cloning... :)
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You should get an oscillosope (e.g. sme(x)oscope) and look at Orca's raw waveform first (take cutoff to maximum and everything else to minimum).

Clone the waveform. It's not a simple saw (has a built-in "sub"). Then typically switch to e.g. quad or eleven, detune and shove it through an XMF.

Tweak filter, tweak oscillator, tweak filter again, tweak again, tweak again, tweak again, tweak again...Then put the lot through an EQ with a fairly even downward slope.

BTW: There's a patch called "Orcane" in Zebra Science. Looks like I didn't bother to actually clone the waveform 100%, but judging by the name it was at least inspired by Orca.

EDIT: Here's a clone of the Orca wave I just did (but saw instead of ramp)
http://www.box.net/shared/c71fqu0fpl
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8)
wow, thank you Howard! will try this and of course check out your patch tonight!
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fas1piano wrote:wow, thank you Howard! will try this and of course check out your patch tonight!
It's not a patch - it's an oscillator template.
Belongs in ".../Modules/Oscillator"
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