bmanic wrote:Are you guys I N S A N E?? It is a tool to help you MIX on HEADPHONES??
This is really similar in concept to the Redline Monitor, I think, but much less expensive.
Isone Pro
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
This is really similar in concept to the Redline Monitor, I think, but much less expensive.
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perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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- KVRAF
- 1907 posts since 29 Oct, 2003
>>> How the hell you are going to mix through a plugin that keeps beeping is beyond my understanding.
simple, just like chili peppers in that video - "you beep on my vibrator" (or what the.. was it)
simple, just like chili peppers in that video - "you beep on my vibrator" (or what the.. was it)
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- KVRAF
- 3645 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
it certainly makes things a bit 'nicer' to listen to with headphones
(apart from the beep
)
-a lot of the settings are really only usable tho,in the first 30% of the control sweep e.g roomsize, reverb, distance. beyond those settings it all gets a bit wierd and unlikely to be very helpful (for me anyway)
be great if it works (as a viable mixing option) as i have a 1 year old little girl and can only work with phones a lot of the time.
might have to pay for it so i can try/compare a few mixes with it tho.
A no beep 1 week demo might have been better in that regard.
(apart from the beep
)-a lot of the settings are really only usable tho,in the first 30% of the control sweep e.g roomsize, reverb, distance. beyond those settings it all gets a bit wierd and unlikely to be very helpful (for me anyway)
be great if it works (as a viable mixing option) as i have a 1 year old little girl and can only work with phones a lot of the time.
might have to pay for it so i can try/compare a few mixes with it tho.
A no beep 1 week demo might have been better in that regard.
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 14 Sep, 2006
Hmm it seems not everyone is particularly fond of the beep...
For what it is worth: the beep is actually produced by the
virtual loudspeakers, so all HRTF, room acoustics and loudspeaker
models remain active, even if the beep is there...
For what it is worth: the beep is actually produced by the
virtual loudspeakers, so all HRTF, room acoustics and loudspeaker
models remain active, even if the beep is there...
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- KVRAF
- 44205 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
I thought it was a beep tool! A very good one. I tested it in Stereo. Then in Mono. On my headphones. On my monitors. Everytime, a perfect BEEPING BEEP. 
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- KVRAF
- 11395 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Seriously, the Red Line Monitor plugin had a nice 60 day fully functional demo, for a good reason. I actually managed to mix a whole song on my laptop with headphones and then listened to the results in the studio. There was no doubt at all that the plugin worked, it did, very well.
However, with your plugin, I read the manual, started messing around with the calibration but got so fed up with the beep within the first minute that I had no other choice but to delete it.
I can understand beeps on an effects plugin that is instant gratification but on this, THIS plugin that is about calibration and getting used to how it works and sounds and what it can do for a mix, you decide to put a beep???
For what it's worth, the little I did manage to hear I was not at all convinced. The HRTF processing messes with the frequency response much too much and makes most material sound harsh and phasey in a weird way. The room modelling was also way over the top. Even at minimum distance of 1m the room had too much reverb in it and didn't sound like a proper studio room at all.
Can't comment on the speaker modelling because I never got so far..
Cheers!
bManic
However, with your plugin, I read the manual, started messing around with the calibration but got so fed up with the beep within the first minute that I had no other choice but to delete it.
I can understand beeps on an effects plugin that is instant gratification but on this, THIS plugin that is about calibration and getting used to how it works and sounds and what it can do for a mix, you decide to put a beep???
For what it's worth, the little I did manage to hear I was not at all convinced. The HRTF processing messes with the frequency response much too much and makes most material sound harsh and phasey in a weird way. The room modelling was also way over the top. Even at minimum distance of 1m the room had too much reverb in it and didn't sound like a proper studio room at all.
Can't comment on the speaker modelling because I never got so far..
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
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- KVRAF
- 2118 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Athens, Greece
Actually, I would use it as an aid for rough mix drafts when working on my home pc late at night, before transferring them to the studio for the final mix using near-field monitors.
So, I only need to have just a fair perspective of how my mix will sound on speakers. After quick comparisons of listening through the headphones and then bypassing Isone and listening through the speakers I find the results sufficient for my needs.
So, I only need to have just a fair perspective of how my mix will sound on speakers. After quick comparisons of listening through the headphones and then bypassing Isone and listening through the speakers I find the results sufficient for my needs.
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- Banned
- 1966 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
I just tried the redline plugin against isone (full version, so no beep) and I must say that isone sounds imo more realistic and is much more versatile than the redline monitor plugin.
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- KVRAF
- 11839 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from west of east
So we have two good plugs that make mixing on headphones a real world process that works -- but two approaches, so each should be demoed.
We escape the trap of our own subjectivity by
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
perceiving neither black nor white but shades of grey
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- KVRAF
- 11395 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
Who cares how cheap it is. I'm not supporting stupid copy protections. There simply is no reason at all for the beep. There is absolutely ZERO need for it and I can find much better use for my 20 euros elsewhere, like a few beers.lotus2035 wrote:bmanic just buy the damn thing, its cheaper than the price of an X-tra large pizza and a few beers..
Cheers!
bManic
"Wisdom is wisdom, regardless of the idiot who said it." -an idiot
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
"They don't ban hate speech; they ban speech they hate." -an oracle
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- Banned
- 1966 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
the non-demo version has no copy protectiopn, so to accuse this dev is sort of strange. if you do not want to buy it: leave it. but better tell: steinberg, NI, Waves etc. to rethink their copy-protection-scheme.