KVR Audio

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:17 pm

Venomeza wrote:Nope, the Kontakt clav kills the one in Elektrik piano. Imho Elektrik Piano is pretty mediocre now.

Just loaded K3 and Elektrik and compared. It's absolutely the same clav (well, maybe Elektrik Piano version has more layers etc), except that in Kontakt there's additional cabinet modeling adn reverb FX applied.
But I agree that it's pretty mediocre

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:08 pm

dickiefunk wrote:
Which has the most authentic Clavinet sound - ZD6 or Elektrik Piano?

Thanks

as mentioned, gsi zd6 ...

Venomeza · Post by **Venomeza** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:47 pm

Megakazbek wrote:
Venomeza wrote:Nope, the Kontakt clav kills the one in Elektrik piano. Imho Elektrik Piano is pretty mediocre now.
Just loaded K3 and Elektrik and compared. It's absolutely the same clav (well, maybe Elektrik Piano version has more layers etc), except that in Kontakt there's additional cabinet modeling adn reverb FX applied.
But I agree that it's pretty mediocre

You are right...my bad. However, there seems to be a lot more going on in the Kontakt one, better scripting maybe.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:37 am

dickiefunk wrote:What is the clavinet soundfont? Do you have a link?

Hey dickie, here's 1 that I got.
My favorite clavinet is in there, as well as other really good keys samples.
It's got soundfonts, as well as other formats.
Really good stuff.
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/04/ ... struments/

Have fun,
Michael

dickiefunk · Post by **dickiefunk** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:14 am

MCnoone wrote:
dickiefunk wrote:What is the clavinet soundfont? Do you have a link?
Hey dickie, here's 1 that I got.
My favorite clavinet is in there, as well as other really good keys samples.
It's got soundfonts, as well as other formats.
Really good stuff.
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/04/ ... struments/

Have fun,
Michael

Thanks for the link!!

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:50 am

dickiefunk wrote:Thanks for the link!!

Oh..btw. If you have Zebra2.3 or the demo of it. You could try my presets in my sig.
Those patches include 4 clavinets I did.

Someday I wanna buy a real clavinet. I love that sound.
Cheers.

feldmann · Post by **feldmann** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:58 am

..."gsi zd6" ...

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:43 pm

eem wrote:To the thread question: If you're getting Komplete the clav in Elektric Piano is quite good and will beat out the ZD6. Scarbee's is still the best but NI's is really good. ZD6 is very usable and smaller memory footprint than loading samples but it's just not quite as good.

In defense of GSI, VB3 is hands-down the most authentic organ sim I've used and I have NI B4II, B4, Logic's EVB3, and a Nord Stage. Key word: Authentic. The "aliasing" Jancivil is talking about is actually rotor noise, and can be shut off globally. Real Leslies have noisy motors and this is just another example of how authentic VB3 can be if you want it. Also, If you've ever heard the chorusing on a real organ VB3's is completely authentic.
I don't think Jancivil is really looking for a real B3 organ-every parameter any organ ever has had can be adjusted on VB3. You can even change cabinets. This plugin has been my secret weapon at all my gigs. Big nod to Mr Ray 73 also.

well, I'm too simple to use it then. If I can't right click and get a learn function and automate things like swells and drives without having to figure it out, it's a clunky interface as far as I am concerned.

If I were recording an organ, I'd get rid of the noise, it isn't musical. Authentic IS what I'm looking for, but thanks for the mind read try. But, there's a line for me of what noises exist in real life you want to mock up in an arrangement and what is just silly. And a BIG FYI, in the real world back in the day, the producers and engineers were always at great pains to get rid of noise which detracts from the music. Rotor noise, or no, it sounds totally synthetic and like total crap aliasing.

The GSI rhodes is fantastic. The Kontakt 3 library clavinet with the tweakable scripting isn't going to be beat by a model using this kind of rudimentary GUI, I'm confident.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:20 pm

MCnoone wrote: My favorite clavinet is in there, as well as other really good keys samples.
It's got soundfonts, as well as other formats.
Really good stuff.
http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2009/04/ ... struments/

I fail to find any download links (on the company website that is). Any hints about where to click?

- Sascha

dickiefunk · Post by **dickiefunk** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:34 pm

the download link is here :-

http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/dsk- ... ries-11918

Haven't tried them out yet though

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:47 am

Sascha Franck wrote:Unfortunaly (and I really mean it!), Logics clavinet is doing quite a nice job for my stuff, in addition it's highly tweakable.

- Sascha

I have Garbage Band, and I believe it uses the same instrument clavi in it as Logic.
I agree. It is better than any other one I've heard.
I like adding that wawa effect to it too.

Here's another link for that dl, plus another keys sample set.
http://www.dskmusic.com/blog/

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:13 am

MCnoone wrote: I have Garbage Band, and I believe it uses the same instrument clavi in it as Logic.

The one in GB has a much reduced feature set.

- Sascha

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:14 am

dickiefunk wrote:the download link is here :-

http://www.hispasonic.com/noticias/dsk- ... ries-11918

Haven't tried them out yet though

Thank you!

- Sascha

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:05 am

jancivil wrote:If I were recording an organ, I'd get rid of the noise, it isn't musical. Authentic IS what I'm looking for, but thanks for the mind read try. But, there's a line for me of what noises exist in real life you want to mock up in an arrangement and what is just silly. And a BIG FYI, in the real world back in the day, the producers and engineers were always at great pains to get rid of noise which detracts from the music. Rotor noise, or no, it sounds totally synthetic and like total crap aliasing.

I really beg to differ here. Too clean organ, as you posted, sounds sterile and lifeless. Adding some noise and grit adds realism to those.

And that rotor noise doesn't sound nowhere near to aliasing, really. And you can turn it on, if you're a purist. But that's disrespectful to the sound of a real Hammond.

For god's, sakes, Guido even modelled the CLICK when you switch from slow to fast Leslie!!!

Also, you CAN right-click on every parameter in VB3 to get to MIDI Learn. Seems to me like you haven't spent much time with it at all.

It's brilliant.

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:31 am

...regarding the Scarbee clavinet I would wait a bit. As far as I see it there will be repackaged Scarbee libraries for the Kontakt player. Considering that NI sells the new Pre-Bass (former Blue Bass) with VAT included (Scarbee sold excl. VAT) you might save a little already. But if you have Komplete you already have Elektrik Piano and its Clavinet is quite good (even the Wurly is OK - the Rhodes are really crappy)...

Which Clavinet vsti?