KVR Audio

Cooker · Post by **Cooker** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:07 pm

Works good with tessla Pro too

dj ray · Post by **dj ray** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:40 am

This takes care of my tape sim needs once and for all. Thank you Bootsie.

Chrisma · Post by **Chrisma** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:24 am

I really like this one! It really does the job as expected. But be careful (as stated earlier) you can easily over do it. I think if I had to sum up how I approach using his plugins is I tastefully use them to subtly make digital feel/sound analog. Don't apply whole lot in one place but a little here and little there (layers) and your mix sound rounder, wider and smoother. Boosty + Nebula =

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chj · Post by **chj** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:52 am

make digital feel/sound analog ... rounder, wider and smoother

That would be my general take on FerricTDS as well. Excellent plug. Bootsie does it again.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:59 am

I'm interested in seeing how this compares to the UAD Fatso. I friggin use that thing everywhere. If this were even close and native, it might save me some trouble.

futurefields · Post by **futurefields** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:49 am

Sounds really good. One of the cleanest GUI's i've ever seen too. Really wish it was zero latency though. Very nice work.

bootsie · Post by **bootsie** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:05 am

futurefields wrote:does this add latency?

yes, 7 samples.

meloco_go wrote:Tried this in mix, which is already done, but client asked to make it more "interesting" - so I did some more FX on gtrs for different parts and aded this to spice up the drums - and liked the results *thumbsup*.
But, Bootsie - any chance of making linear-phase anti-alias filters?

would a dry/wet knob do the trick?

bmanic wrote:I did get a bit better results by running an input pad of about -25dB on most signals and then compensating on the output. Perhaps add a button for this on the plugin itself? Especially on full program material it's wise to drive the Ferric much less.

I rather expected complains on having it to subtle again. I'll put in on the list.

Glad you all like it so far

adm10000 · Post by **adm10000** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:34 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I'm interested in seeing how this compares to the UAD Fatso. I friggin use that thing everywhere. If this were even close and native, it might save me some trouble.

+1. I got a UAD coupon today.. and some voucher left over after grabbing the moog filter, so this weekend i think I'll test them side by side.

tommy_d · Post by **tommy_d** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:40 am

bootsie wrote:would a dry/wet knob do the trick?

[Homer Simpson voice]Hmmmm...dry/wet knob...[/Homer Simpson voice]

bootsie wrote:Glad you all like it so far

Absolutely

I've only tried it on a few things so far, but I like it a lot already. The dynamics processing can do nice things for the drum bus, and I used the saturation to bring out the "raunch" on some female vox. The saturation characteristics are interesting, actually, and notably different from those of say TesslaPRO.

I'm going to have another listen today and line it up with Ferox (my current fave tape sim plug); I'm curious to hear how the two compare.

There's some fascinating stuff in the DC, I think. I look forward to trying it all out...

BLUE-S-MAN · Post by **BLUE-S-MAN** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:56 am

Tried it on some "recorderman" drums:
drums orginal.mp3 http://senduit.com/558581
drums ferrictds.mp3 http://senduit.com/15e340

Great stuff Bootsie, thank you.

meloco_go · Post by **meloco_go** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:12 pm

bootsie wrote:would a dry/wet knob do the trick?

Of course it is a useful feature, but, obviously if you combined IIR-AA filtered signal with the original you would have some ripple in the high-end.
FIR linear-phase AA filter is the only way around this AFAIK (or compensating for phase shift from IIR filter somehow).

Totolitoto · Post by **Totolitoto** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:46 pm

meloco_go wrote:
bootsie wrote:would a dry/wet knob do the trick?
Of course it is a useful feature, but, obviously if you combined IIR-AA filtered signal with the original you would have some ripple in the high-end.
FIR linear-phase AA filter is the only way around this AFAIK (or compensating for phase shift from IIR filter somehow).

Guys, I really have no idea what you two are talkin'bout

geroyannis · Post by **geroyannis** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:46 pm

bootsie wrote:
bmanic wrote:I did get a bit better results by running an input pad of about -25dB on most signals and then compensating on the output. Perhaps add a button for this on the plugin itself? Especially on full program material it's wise to drive the Ferric much less.
I rather expected complains on having it to subtle again. I'll put in on the list.

Please make it optional though! (as suggested with a button)

I understand it could be a little too much for a mix buss but I love the way it sounds on individual sources.

Agreed · Post by **Agreed** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:49 pm

It's pretty easy to demonstrate how phase becomes a problem with simple filters. Get your favorite multi-band parametric EQ with unlimited bands (ReaEQ in the free REAPER plugins pack is a good one to demonstrate this, because it allows you to view directly the phase relationship as well as the frequency shaping). Now pretend you've got some wicked bad AC hum and you've just gotta kill it. Make incredibly narrow cuts at 60hz and every one of its harmonics at least into the 600hz area, and make them deep. -24dB minimum, go deeper if you want to really make it apparent.

Now run some material through it. Ugh, what's all that ringing sound? What the hell is it doing to mangle the sound so badly?

Have it show the phase and notice how at each of those cuts, though they were very narrow and should only have surgically taken out the pure AC noise without leaving the more harmonically complex content of actual music less molested (relative, here, you know), the phase is just totally skewed from the filters.

Linear phase corrects the phase issues and allows you to adjust EQ without worrying about undesired and often quite nasty sounding phase discrepancies.

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:25 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I'm interested in seeing how this compares to the UAD Fatso. I friggin use that thing everywhere. If this were even close and native, it might save me some trouble.

FerricTDS sounds fantastic, exactly what I always hoped for in a tape sim.

Imho it's not directly comparable to Fatso which actually is a combination of tape emu, transformer emu and 1176 style comp.
Only comparing the tape emulation I'd say both are roughly on the same level, FerricTDS being a bit smoother which I like personally.
And then, Fatso's UI is hideous to operate, Ferric is completely easy in comparison.
Don't get me wrong, Fatso is wonderful, I'll get it with the first decent promo, but its beauty is the tasteful combination of FX.
For pure tape emu FerricTDS can easily hold its own imho, a rather amazing accomplishment if you think about it.

And then, the two will coexist very well, isn't there a complete school of mixing based on choosing the right tool depending on task ?
Ymmv,
susiwong

OMG, bootsie has an entry in the DC'09!