I think you're either in dreamworld or on a complete wind up!jak666 wrote:i was thinking about this set up
how to build a professional studio
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
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- KVRian
- 1255 posts since 18 May, 2004
You've had some good advice here.
You really need to state your intended usage, what do you actually want to do? Judging from the equipment you're asking about it sounds like you want to record bands, live stuff.
You will need in this order....
two well thought out and carefully (acoustically) treated spaces for recording and monitoring (budget $3000 at least and do alot of reading)
Accurate and carefully positioned monitors ($3000 should get you something decent)
A computer and host that you connect with ($1500)
A basic set of quality plugins (free or payware) ($1500)
A couple of vocal mics with different characteristics ($2500)
Some good all purpose mics ($1500)
A mic pre ($2000)
A mixer to blend and route incoming audio ($1500)
Decent AD convertors ($1000)
Decent DA convertors for monitoring ($1000)
All of the above can be compromised on and bought for less, depending on what your priorities are but don't skimp on the room. Given that you're asking elementary questions makes me doubt your overall knowledge of the process and what's involved, are you sure you're ready to lay down that kind of money?
You say the "room's fine"... it's very important, give me a pair of $400 monitors and a computer in a well treated room and I'll give you a good mix, put me in a million dollar studio with poorly setup monitors and no acoustic treatment and it'll be a much harder job.
You really need to state your intended usage, what do you actually want to do? Judging from the equipment you're asking about it sounds like you want to record bands, live stuff.
You will need in this order....
two well thought out and carefully (acoustically) treated spaces for recording and monitoring (budget $3000 at least and do alot of reading)
Accurate and carefully positioned monitors ($3000 should get you something decent)
A computer and host that you connect with ($1500)
A basic set of quality plugins (free or payware) ($1500)
A couple of vocal mics with different characteristics ($2500)
Some good all purpose mics ($1500)
A mic pre ($2000)
A mixer to blend and route incoming audio ($1500)
Decent AD convertors ($1000)
Decent DA convertors for monitoring ($1000)
All of the above can be compromised on and bought for less, depending on what your priorities are but don't skimp on the room. Given that you're asking elementary questions makes me doubt your overall knowledge of the process and what's involved, are you sure you're ready to lay down that kind of money?
You say the "room's fine"... it's very important, give me a pair of $400 monitors and a computer in a well treated room and I'll give you a good mix, put me in a million dollar studio with poorly setup monitors and no acoustic treatment and it'll be a much harder job.
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- 2208 posts since 13 May, 2005
Yes, better gear can make all the difference in the right hands, but you need to make sure first you know how to use it (learning that takes many years, btw). After all, you wouldn't buy and try to race a formula 1 car the day after you got your license, would you?
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
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Where's the 52" monitors and racks of computers?djanthonyw wrote:One day your studio will look as good as mine...
I assume you're american (or just joking). In many places the comma and period have their usages reversed when it comes to numbers. So you would see numbers like "1.999,99" instead of "1,999.99". No idea why.Aloysius wrote:You won't get a lot for fifteen Euro or even fifteen-thousand.jak666 wrote:15.000 €
But yeah, 15k only goes so far, and probably less far in europe compared to the US since I've noticed hardware tends to be more expensive.
noise and beats: Negutyv Xeiro do people actually click these?
gearlust: Roland JP-8000, too much/not enough eurorack
machinecode by: u-he, Bitwig, Fabfilter, NI, et al
gearlust: Roland JP-8000, too much/not enough eurorack
machinecode by: u-he, Bitwig, Fabfilter, NI, et al
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jak666 wrote:i was thinking about this set up
MIC
Audix D6
Audix D4
Sennaiser 421
451B AKG
AKG C414 B-XLS (x2)
Nuemann u 87
Apex 460 (x2)
shure sm57 (x2)
PREAMP
FCF SB100 Stereo
API 512C x 6
BEHRINGER MINI AMP800
COMPRESSOR
DBX 266XL (x2)
MONITORING
KRK V8 II
AKG K141 (x3)
No Access Virus with a $15000 budget? FAIL.
In all seriousness, go with Genelec, not KRK.
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- KVRian
- 1313 posts since 3 Aug, 2008 from where the streets have names
210 000 people using a virus, that's a lot of sick people!ckatrun411 wrote:scoobz wrote:The perfect question for a place like www.gearlsutz.com
+ 1
nobody here gives a f**k unless the studio:
1. sounds like a virus.
2. uses that plug in.
With 22k you can have a decent set-up with certain limitations. The "pro" aspect will depend on if you can sell what you do with your set-up.
There are "pros" that have smaller set-ups than a 22k one, but the inverse is also true.
Priorities should be:
-good rooms
-good mics
-good monitors
-good pre-amp
-good soundcard
and a DAW that you feel comfortable with.
and the most important thing, courage and perseverance!
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I still think is a wind up, but if you can't equip a studio for 22K and get bloody good results from it, then there really is something wrong with you.
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- 181 posts since 25 Oct, 2003
bud, you take your time to learn what YOU need. what you're asking here it's just wrong in many levels.
listen, how can someone can tell you what monitors you should buy??? you see?
listen, how can someone can tell you what monitors you should buy??? you see?
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- KVRist
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i was thinking to change neumann with a ribera u47
and to buy 2 fireface as ad converter
so i can spend about 11,000 euros
in this way i could use 9,000 euros in the room sound...
can someone tell me who can help me in the room sound? some engineer?
and to buy 2 fireface as ad converter
so i can spend about 11,000 euros
in this way i could use 9,000 euros in the room sound...
can someone tell me who can help me in the room sound? some engineer?
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- 87 posts since 20 Sep, 2009
You won't ever tire of hearing this. Room acoustics is more than just buying the foam and sticking it in places. Hire a professional or have an understanding of Axial Modes and sort out problem frequencies in the live room and the studio long before you dream of the rest of the kit.tehlord wrote:Room acoustics first THEN start buying the gear you're not sure of.
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did you have a look at the john sayers site I recommended? I can see this all ending up in tears; the more I think about it the more I think this is a wind up.jak666 wrote:can someone tell me who can help me in the room sound? some engineer?
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- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
Jak, you've been asked a lot of questions but not done much to answer them. I'm in agreement with those saying this is a wind-up, a prank. But maybe if you bother to reply to people's attempts to help you, it'll seem less that way.
Assuming you aren't just TTP (if you are, then I recommend a massively impressive DFA box that I will build you to order for... well, however much money you have to spend), here's a really easy one to start on -- a question whose answer will be important if anyone is to give you a serious answer:
Assuming you aren't just TTP (if you are, then I recommend a massively impressive DFA box that I will build you to order for... well, however much money you have to spend), here's a really easy one to start on -- a question whose answer will be important if anyone is to give you a serious answer:
yellowfever wrote:Out of interest, what music style do you write and what gear have you got already?
