Why don't more developers create AUs as well as VSTs?

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djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Hey, this reminds me of that time that a girl I liked a lot rejected me and then I realized that I was better off because she was a total bitch anyway and that without make-up she looked, like, horrible. And she had caries in one of her molar teeth.

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djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Ooh goody, a host war! All we need now is "science vs religion"...

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TristezaOrange wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Hey, this reminds me of that time that a girl I liked a lot rejected me and then I realized that I was better off because she was a total bitch anyway and that without make-up she looked, like, horrible. And she had caries in one of her molar teeth.

:hihi:
If I'm thinking of the same girl you are.... she also had herpes.
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deraudrl wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Ooh goody, a host war! All we need now is "science vs religion"...
When did I mention a host?
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deraudrl wrote:Ooh goody, a host war! All we need now is "science vs religion"...
mine is the host of hosts
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androidlove wrote:
deraudrl wrote:Ooh goody, a host war! All we need now is "science vs religion"...
mine is the host of hosts
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djanthonyw wrote:
deraudrl wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Ooh goody, a host war! All we need now is "science vs religion"...
When did I mention a host?
He probably thought your reference to Cakewalk was a reference to a host (but it could just be a reference to the software company in general...)
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even better reason have Kore2 -)
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topaz wrote:...(all the best are AU anyhow)...
If AU is the only format your setup can handle, that's pretty much a given, isn't it?

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Xenakios wrote:That's very likely also. And Synthedit and SynthMaker can only produce Windows-compatible VST plugins.
Even if they could produce for other platforms, most of us who use those applications as development platforms would not see nay value in being ripped off by Apple just to test them for Mac users. After all, most of us would have to buy a Mac that was more expensive than our own PCs, just to help out a bunch of people who are too stupid to use a PC effectively. There's no upside whatsoever, because such morons are likely to treble your support load through their ineptness.
topaz wrote:having tons of plugins available is not so great, it's better to have fewer great plugins (all the best are AU anyhow) than a ton of crap ones.
Sure, but it's really nice not to have your choices limited so severely, isn't it? I only use a very small number of instruments and effects but absolutely none of them would be available to me on MacOS.
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par.
Very true, but I fail to see the relevance of such a statement to this thread. e.g. Can you show me an AU synth with a superior filter to Wasp? Don't bother looking, no such thing exists. That's all it takes, one thing you cannot afford to be without, and the whole argument comes crashing down.
For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta
If you seriously believe that, why are you speaking about quality? Sylenth 1 is a one-trick pony compared to the incredible depth of z3ta+. Although I've not tried them back-to-back, so I cannot say which is worse, neither has a great filter. Or maybe I've just been spoiled by working in a host brimming with great filters? Either way, working on Mac would be abandoning quality for me and settling for second or third best, at best. You choose your software, then you choose your OS. Doing it the other way around is what leads to this kind of whining.
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djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Well, as a Mac owner you sure do have fewer options. I wonder how u guys have got along without 64 bit audio apps and plugs? Its coming along on the PC. For a Computer that claims to be on the cutting edge, thats a bit lame isnt it? :lol:
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BONES wrote:
Xenakios wrote:That's very likely also. And Synthedit and SynthMaker can only produce Windows-compatible VST plugins.
Even if they could produce for other platforms, most of us who use those applications as development platforms would not see nay value in being ripped off by Apple just to test them for Mac users. After all, most of us would have to buy a Mac that was more expensive than our own PCs, just to help out a bunch of people who are too stupid to use a PC effectively. There's no upside whatsoever, because such morons are likely to treble your support load through their ineptness.
topaz wrote:having tons of plugins available is not so great, it's better to have fewer great plugins (all the best are AU anyhow) than a ton of crap ones.
Sure, but it's really nice not to have your choices limited so severely, isn't it? I only use a very small number of instruments and effects but absolutely none of them would be available to me on MacOS.
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par.
Very true, but I fail to see the relevance of such a statement to this thread. e.g. Can you show me an AU synth with a superior filter to Wasp? Don't bother looking, no such thing exists. That's all it takes, one thing you cannot afford to be without, and the whole argument comes crashing down.
For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta
If you seriously believe that, why are you speaking about quality? Sylenth 1 is a one-trick pony compared to the incredible depth of z3ta+. Although I've not tried them back-to-back, so I cannot say which is worse, neither has a great filter. Or maybe I've just been spoiled by working in a host brimming with great filters? Either way, working on Mac would be abandoning quality for me and settling for second or third best, at best. You choose your software, then you choose your OS. Doing it the other way around is what leads to this kind of whining.

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Just use THIS http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4187.html and you have all vst's as AU. (Well all mac vst's that is)
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:hihi: throw the mac out-a-da-window.. and get a PC :party:
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Limited selection for limited people on a limited platform. Why give them more? They wouldn't be able to handle it. If they really want something to play with they can do it with their wimpPhone :lol:

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TristezaOrange wrote:
djanthonyw wrote:To elaborate on Topaz' post, it's definitely better to have a fewer amount of options that are very good than a lot more options that are sub par. For the longest time I wanted z3ta on Mac, but then I realized that Sylenth is actually better than z3ta and Cakewalk sucks.
Hey, this reminds me of that time that a girl I liked a lot rejected me and then I realized that I was better off because she was a total bitch anyway and that without make-up she looked, like, horrible. And she had caries in one of her molar teeth.

:hihi:
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