Tetra... Prophet 08 rack or something else?
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 13140 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I swear I've seen this discussion before... but where is Aciddose?
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- KVRian
- 955 posts since 18 Apr, 2006
I was just working in trilian tonight and saw this description which made me think of this thread:
spectrasonic description of TR-Juno 60 Pulse Sub wrote:The Juno 60 is a classic synthesizer Roland developed in the early 1980's. Analog purists once argued that is wasn't true analog, because itused DCOs instead of VCOs - but today, it's widely recognized as one of the fattest sounding synths ever made! It was very popular, because of its price, build quality, and sound quality.
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- KVRAF
- 13140 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
zerocrossing, I've heard a couple of you tracks and I know a little bit about you taste in synths via interaction around the forum... if you like the Mopho, chances are, you won't be disappointed by the '08 or the Tetra. That said there is no guarantee, they may not click for you for some unquantifiable reason. For example, the only DSI/SCI synths I've gotten along with are the Evolver/Poly Evolver, though I've used a Pro-one, Prophet 5 rev2 and 3, Mopho, Prophet '08 and Six-Trak. That isn't to say that any of those are bad synths, they just weren't for me.
If you are averse to vintage analogs your options for a poly analog are limited... you've got your Andromedas and Studio Electronics level synths, then you have your Vermona and DSI level synths and that's about it. If you don't mind getting an older synth, you might want to consider the Akai AX60 or a Crumar or Teisco synth in addition to the usual Roland/Korg/SCI synths.
All this talk of DCOs v. VCOs complete ignores the fact that choosing a synth is different for everyone. We're all looking/listening for different things and it's difficult to describe the characteristics that are important to us. If I had the budget to buy any polysynth, I'd build a Buchla 200e based on 4 261e Oscs (DCOs!!!) over a CS80 in a heart beat and I've used a CS80. That is just me though.
I won't tell you what you should buy but I if you are gonna spend >a few hundred dollars, I will recommend that you do a month or two of research. Locate the synths you are interested in and test them out if you can.
If you are averse to vintage analogs your options for a poly analog are limited... you've got your Andromedas and Studio Electronics level synths, then you have your Vermona and DSI level synths and that's about it. If you don't mind getting an older synth, you might want to consider the Akai AX60 or a Crumar or Teisco synth in addition to the usual Roland/Korg/SCI synths.
All this talk of DCOs v. VCOs complete ignores the fact that choosing a synth is different for everyone. We're all looking/listening for different things and it's difficult to describe the characteristics that are important to us. If I had the budget to buy any polysynth, I'd build a Buchla 200e based on 4 261e Oscs (DCOs!!!) over a CS80 in a heart beat and I've used a CS80. That is just me though.
I won't tell you what you should buy but I if you are gonna spend >a few hundred dollars, I will recommend that you do a month or two of research. Locate the synths you are interested in and test them out if you can.
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRian
- 955 posts since 18 Apr, 2006
I just happened to see it tonight so I put it up. The part I liked is that it says "analog purist once argued..." - but the argument continues - even tonight. I own an analog filter (ebbe and flut), but all my oscs are completely digital (virus and plug ins).ghettosynth wrote:The problem with terms like "fat" and "thin" is that they aren't very descriptive. The Juno filter has character in spades but it is not in any way an animated synth as it has only one DCO per voice. It's really hard to make a bad sound with the Juno and it has an awesome analog chorus which is where any animation that you hear actually comes from.jeffb01 wrote:I was just working in trilian tonight and saw this description which made me think of this thread:
spectrasonic description of TR-Juno 60 Pulse Sub wrote:The Juno 60 is a classic synthesizer Roland developed in the early 1980's. Analog purists once argued that is wasn't true analog, because itused DCOs instead of VCOs - but today, it's widely recognized as one of the fattest sounding synths ever made! It was very popular, because of its price, build quality, and sound quality.
The purists are correct, it's not true analog. I've never known anyone, purist or no, to say that it's not a nice synth.
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- KVRAF
- 20932 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
hehehejustin3am wrote:I swear I've seen this discussion before... but where is Aciddose?
The nice thing about this thread vs. the previous renditions is all the youtube clips, ghettosynth's point was best made with those.
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- KVRAF
- 13140 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
@ghettosynth...
re Prophet 5 revs: I'm the wrong person to ask. I just remember that the rev3 stayed in tune for a lot longer than the rev2. My buddy would probably tell you that the filter interacted with the oscillators more musically on the rev2 but I couldn't hear much of a difference.
re Vermona: they make good stuff, the demos don't do it justice. I'm not sure about the voice architecture.
re Buchla v. CS80: that was kinda my point, my tongue was firmly in-cheek.
I agree with a lot of your points from a certain perspective. If you are looking for an "analog synth" DSI stuff isn't the best representative for the sound people associate with that term but I don't think any one synth is. YMMV, I make mostly noise and glitchy shit so I'm more concerned with how a synth responds to abuse than anything else.
What DIY oscs have you built? CGS, Living VCOs? Tell me more. I've got some CGS boards waiting to get stuffed but both the threeler and the Living VCO look awesome too. I'm easy to please though, I like the sound of APC style 556 oscs.
re Prophet 5 revs: I'm the wrong person to ask. I just remember that the rev3 stayed in tune for a lot longer than the rev2. My buddy would probably tell you that the filter interacted with the oscillators more musically on the rev2 but I couldn't hear much of a difference.
re Vermona: they make good stuff, the demos don't do it justice. I'm not sure about the voice architecture.
re Buchla v. CS80: that was kinda my point, my tongue was firmly in-cheek.
I agree with a lot of your points from a certain perspective. If you are looking for an "analog synth" DSI stuff isn't the best representative for the sound people associate with that term but I don't think any one synth is. YMMV, I make mostly noise and glitchy shit so I'm more concerned with how a synth responds to abuse than anything else.
What DIY oscs have you built? CGS, Living VCOs? Tell me more. I've got some CGS boards waiting to get stuffed but both the threeler and the Living VCO look awesome too. I'm easy to please though, I like the sound of APC style 556 oscs.
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 16839 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
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- KVRAF
- 13140 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
ghettosynth wrote:Ahh, the hardware version of collecting unused plugins, collecting unstuffed CGS boards.
Well, I finished my matrix mixer, wave multiplier and steiner filter. I still have the analog logic and VCO to build. Thanks for your thoughts, I've got some reading to do! Sorry for the further derailing.
