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rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:05 pm

phazed wrote:I think there is no need to use the "accurate" setting in most cases and that it's activated on more presets than necessary. So browsing sounds leads to the impression the ACE is a CPU hog.

Depends on what machine the presets were created on.Turn quality down to suit.
Better still start with "init" preset design your own it's more fun.

Presets with voice setting to few and legato/retrigger mode for example work fine in accurat mode.
Drums and percussion are the same although draft mode is great for gritty/hissy hats and snares.

Vox pads are also great in draft mode with the cross mod function..

in the end it's a matter of choice...

ps

i posted an mp3 demo somewhere a few posts back showing some drums..

even the kick and hats were created in draft mode consuming little or no cpu.

only the bass and lead were set to accurate as they are set to legato and retrigger.

cheers

Rob

raikard233 · Post by **raikard233** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:29 pm

Hlis93 wrote:29 patches for ACE. The result of getting comfortable with it yesterday, the patches are probably not so great or not so desirable for everyday use, they are mostly noises, but here they are if you so choose to…

http://www.box.net/shared/74dgtpky7y

Thanks for your patches, i've tried them and lightly modified one going into a problem using it:

With Ableton Live 7.0.18, i've created a midi loop clip using ACE, when i've added a second instance of ACE, i've noticed a light hi-freq cutting off from the first instance, like as the filter was closed a bit!

I've did nothing than tweak a bit the patch and then adding the second instance of ACE on the second channel, no automation or something like.

Then i've tried to select the same patch on the second instance and the first instance of ACE restarted to play correctly like before!!!

Anyone that can reproduce this? (Obviously better trying with Hlis93 patches)

Here a sample, you will hear a difference in the highs that's coming when i add in the 2nd channel a 2nd instance of ACE:

http://rapidshare.com/files/313343568/a ... f.zip.html

Here's my Hlis modified patch:

http://www.zshare.net/download/69123916c1cdafc4/

phazed · Post by **phazed** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:56 pm

rob_lee wrote: Depends on what machine the presets were created on.Turn quality down to suit.
Better still start with "init" preset design your own it's more fun.

Presets with voice setting to few and legato/retrigger mode for example work fine in accurat mode.

Ok, I use a recent Mac Pro quad-core, so it should have enough power

What I'm asking for is whether it's really necessary that even the "init" sound uses the "accurate" setting. I guess that many people start their sounds from scratch and simply forget the down the setting down after finishing.

In your sound set, do you really think that "RL Amnesia" only works with best quality setting? Your sounds are good, but they use "accurate" nearly throughout and I think there's no big loss in putting them down 1 or 2 steps.

Gucky · Post by **Gucky** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:11 pm

Hi Hlis93,
many thanks for your sounds.

The preset "Funny Lead 2" is one of the fattest sounds I ever played.
ACE can do ultra warm sounds.

I want more such sounds!!!!

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:13 pm

phazed wrote:
rob_lee wrote: Depends on what machine the presets were created on.Turn quality down to suit.
Better still start with "init" preset design your own it's more fun.

Presets with voice setting to few and legato/retrigger mode for example work fine in accurat mode.
Ok, I use a recent Mac Pro quad-core, so it should have enough power

What I'm asking for is whether it's really necessary that even the "init" sound uses the "accurate" setting. I guess that many people start their sounds from scratch and simply forget the down the setting down after finishing.

In your sound set, do you really think that "RL Amnesia" only works with best quality setting? Your sounds are good, but they use "accurate" nearly throughout and I think there's no big loss in putting them down 1 or 2 steps.

If you read my earlier posts i already stated that the bank was not finished and more presets would be added for the final release.
Obviously setting need changed (not the sounds) just little stuff like settings such as "accurate/and voice settings" this was a quick release for you guys to get an idea of ACE.

BTW

Please make a list here of all the presets in my or other banks that are unplayable on your machines and i'll see what i can do.
To be fair i should have took this into consideration whilst designing the sounds so my hands up for that but like i say come release day i'll have my end sorted.

Also im only on a Quad Core Q6600 Windows machine and the presets work perfect on mine otherwise i would have scrapped each of the ones that even spiked my cpu

On some of the presets...turning the quality down produces unwanted hiss..in some cases and not all but that would mean adjusting a whole bank of sounds

@phazed

im happy you like the sounds..i'll see if i can tweak the quality settings without changing the feel of the sounds

Cheers

Rob

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:43 pm

phazed wrote:
rob_lee wrote: Depends on what machine the presets were created on.Turn quality down to suit.
Better still start with "init" preset design your own it's more fun.

Presets with voice setting to few and legato/retrigger mode for example work fine in accurat mode.
Ok, I use a recent Mac Pro quad-core, so it should have enough power

What I'm asking for is whether it's really necessary that even the "init" sound uses the "accurate" setting. I guess that many people start their sounds from scratch and simply forget the down the setting down after finishing.

In your sound set, do you really think that "RL Amnesia" only works with best quality setting? Your sounds are good, but they use "accurate" nearly throughout and I think there's no big loss in putting them down 1 or 2 steps.

I would rather it default to accurate and it can be up to me, (the user) to adjust

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:46 pm

pdxindy wrote:
phazed wrote:
rob_lee wrote: Depends on what machine the presets were created on.Turn quality down to suit.
Better still start with "init" preset design your own it's more fun.

Presets with voice setting to few and legato/retrigger mode for example work fine in accurat mode.
Ok, I use a recent Mac Pro quad-core, so it should have enough power

What I'm asking for is whether it's really necessary that even the "init" sound uses the "accurate" setting. I guess that many people start their sounds from scratch and simply forget the down the setting down after finishing.

In your sound set, do you really think that "RL Amnesia" only works with best quality setting? Your sounds are good, but they use "accurate" nearly throughout and I think there's no big loss in putting them down 1 or 2 steps.
I would rather it default to accurate and it can be up to me, (the user) to adjust

+1

I can only design sounds that sound good on my own machine and set them as they are then as you say the user can adjust to suit their needs

Rob

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:47 pm

Exhile wrote:I am still not convinced. I am no expert with modular synths but what will this eventually give me that i can't get out of Zebra, Alchemy, Twin, ES2, NI Synths or ultra analog. Is it just more fun or does it actualy give you somethin extra

May not be for you... The demo is there so that is the best way to tell what ACE offers that is useful for you.

Dj Troy · Post by **Dj Troy** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:07 pm

hate they synth cpu hog there are much much better synths out there for the price ie karma fx

bM3w · Post by **bM3w** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:17 pm

Dj Troy wrote:hate they synth cpu hog there are much much better synths out there for the price ie karma fx

Fine if you don't like it. Nobody's forcing you to buy it. But hating a synth

Lotuzia · Post by **Lotuzia** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:17 pm

If you're confronted to CPU spikes try lowering the quality to standard, or even draft. In many cases you won't notice a major change in the sound character (if any) on the sound in isolation.

Not speaking of course if its an instrument that is not 1rst plan in a mix

hope it helps

L.

Dj Troy · Post by **Dj Troy** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:31 pm

bM3w wrote:
Dj Troy wrote:hate they synth cpu hog there are much much better synths out there for the price ie karma fx
Fine if you don't like it. Nobody's forcing you to buy it. But hating a synth

what are you talking about buying it...i wouldn't use it if it was free...i have a pretty good pc and my cpu is being hammered its my opinion if you don't like it that's your problem but im entitled to it...if you ask me this vsti is a rip off of void-i only difference is void sounds better seriously i love zebra but this synth is horrible!if you do not no what void is...download it try it and compare for yourself!

bM3w · Post by **bM3w** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:43 pm

Dj Troy wrote:
bM3w wrote:
Dj Troy wrote:hate they synth cpu hog there are much much better synths out there for the price ie karma fx
Fine if you don't like it. Nobody's forcing you to buy it. But hating a synth
what are you talking about buying it...i wouldn't use it if it was free...i have a pretty good pc and my cpu is being hammered its my opinion if you don't like it that's your problem but im entitled to it...if you ask me this vsti is a rip off of void-i only difference is void sounds better seriously i love zebra but this synth is horrible!if you do not no what void is...download it try it and compare for yourself!

You really should look up the words "horrible" and "hate" and translate that back to your language. I never said I have a problem with your "opinion". I disagree with it and I think you're using the wrong words to discribe your opinion about ACE.

That aside it's clearly stated on the website, that ACE is "very demanding on the CPU". So what do you expect? What are you complaining about?

rob_lee · Post by **rob_lee** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:50 pm

there just ain't no pleasing some people.

hersoot · Post by **hersoot** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:55 pm

Didn't Urs plainly fore-warn potential buyers about massive CPU usage?

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