MU-Community what about add SF2 format (and others Akai ... ) into SAMPLA ? ;)

[synthyboy]

MU-Community what about add SF2 format into MULTI SAMPLA ? Let's ask about this idea JO
For example, I like SF2 files (not only me, Soundfonts still popular format in the all world for Live Instruments Drums & Bass and Brass )
and want to use it into my MU Project, Yes I have VST SFZ plugin for this, but I want to use minimum plugins inside One "MU Project"

P.S. I like MU Demo ("Home") version for EASY function, Very Nice Interface, Small size and going to make music at "MU Lab Projet" Only at FUTURE
(now I'm using FL9) Sorry, but MU is WET so far ...

HEY MIDI-GUYS what do you think about it ?

[TheGuysanIdiot]

Hi synthyboy

[synthyboy] - "Sorry, but MU is WET so far ..."

What do you mean?

OZ

[pquenin]

Such a request seems logical.
But converting SF2 files into MULTI SAMPLA format is a big work.
SFZ works fine so it's not so important afetr all...

[synthyboy]

hi, pquenin,

But converting SF2 files into MULTI SAMPLA format is a big work.

may be ...
I'm a musician, not a programmer and don't know how it's hard to do.
This is just a proposition, for example FL has a SF player. Why ???
So, if it possible, very good, if not, no problems. will use SFZ again. but SFZ is old and I don't know how it works on Vista or W7.

[synthyboy]

Hi synthyboy

[synthyboy] - "Sorry, but MU is WET so far ..."

What do you mean?

OZ

Hi OZ,
ok, my "WET" is not absolute correct, I mean SOME nuances with usability only.
All others expensive and (???) "professional" midi vst stantions have much more bugs and problems. I'm writing here NOT because I have a lot of free time, I just feel Good Future for "MU" Project. But I have a big experience in Rock and Club music industry and wish just a talk my opinion "HOW REALLY MUCH BETTER FOR R.E.A.L. MUSICIAN"
Ok guys, Happy New 2010 Year !!!
"MU.Lab" is OK !

[sorohanro]

If you are a musician and have "big experience in Rock and Club music industry", then you might like the fact that soundfonts are not supported
The quality between soundfont and wav format is quite big.

I made several packs of samples mostly for Mu.Lab, some released also as soundfont.
Take both of them and render same MIDI file and you'll be convinced.

[synthyboy]

oh, man, you make me smile, really, I don't want even to start this "old, long and useless dispute" try to understand, people in the clubs don't care what a midi progs, vst or sample format you using, they are want "a piece of action" melody and energy keep it simple

[sorohanro]

Well, I'm for sound quality...
As for dancing, people dance also on but I really doubt that you would do that

As for soundfonts, there are some players that are stable in Mu.Lab and definitely have a better quality of sound than FL's soundfont player.
Try Shortcircuit version 1.1.2 sounds (to me) better than 2 and better than any other plugin that play soundfonts.

[synthyboy]

Uhhh, "Shura" track, man, it seems we are from same geo territory but from different "planets" Yes, I mean T.H.A.T. and I'm thinking "Shura's" composer is GREAT ! Sorry, but I don't understand full etiology this "quality". Or people love your music or not, not third side. If minimum 200 millions of people (Eastern Europe and Scandinavia) listen a Shura's tracks so it's "REAL quality" Did you think ? Also, do you know "how much $$$$$ this track cost ?
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Ok, let's from start again, SF (Akai and others) are still popular world's formats and have a big army of users. This is FACT too ;)I just would like to ask to make same thing in the New "MU" SAMPLER, if not possible, so not (mmm
and sorry), if yes, so great! If I do correct understand this wing of KVR forum, Jo have opened this forum as master of MU Project and wish to hear opinions from musician (as potential users and buyers) about usability and stability of his project.
So, we can make a propositions "HOW BETTER" and that All

sorohanro, my friend, read some info if you really so worry about "the quallity and professionalism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundfont

[sorohanro]

sorohanro, my friend, read some info if you really so worry about "the quallity and professionalism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundfont

Sorry for not knowing what soundfont is

As for Shura vs quality, you know, popular doesn't mean quality.
You might want to try VSampler, demo is working for 30 days and converts whatever to VSampler and soundfont format, I think that can read even AKAI disks (not sure about)...

[synthyboy]

No, man, comon, I'm sure you know what is SF format I'm just reminded it ... if you forget
I have a trial version VSampler, yes, this is a great thing.
P.S. don't forget about big army GM-midi users and Karaoke users, yes they are may be "funny", but they are potential users and buyers too, a commercial side of a project is very important thing too ...
P.S. I don't want to dispute, just a proposition to include a SF2 , Akai and others popular formats (IF IT POSSIBLE), I mean Yes -Yes, No-No

[pquenin]

SFZ is old but works fine. And SFZ+ is now freeware.
I prefer SFZ because it also read SFZ format. SFZ+ is only a SF2 player.

[pljones]

I think the point here is a valid one.

Many, many people pick up a host and never expect to need to have to add to it. It's meant to "just work". (Look at the recently locked thread on sales of plugins -- hosts sell many times more.)

But they've got all these other samples around they want to use.

An SF2 player in MultiSampla might be nice -- it doesn't have to do any thing that MultiSampla doesn't do already. And I think most of the building blocks already exist (except for reading the format). Indeed, I'd expect this to end up as "import from SF2" (or AKAI or whatever), saving to native MultiSampla format, rather than being an "SF2 player" per se. (And if the importer is designed to "build" a MultiSampla based on what its importing, it might be easier to add new import formats as they're wanted.)

And you can still use SFZ, ShortCircuit, etc. if you want.

[synthyboy]

hi pljones, thanx for your reply
I don't mean to add a new function as "export - import" from one sound format to other special format, ONLY "READ" SF2, Akai ... format function in the MU sampler, just make a different format UNIVERSAL player (not only wav). I hope you are understand me now

[pljones]

"Load SF2" then, rather than "import"? Either way, same effect. If it's MultiSampla, internally it would be in MultiSampla format. I guess it could keep a reference to the SF2 from which it got all the information but it would be better to save it out once it had created the MultiSampla, in my view.