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unpeople wrote:
headquest wrote:...and [e-books] would need to be in the Apple format to work with their reader.
Not so. Apple uses the open .epub format.
That's good news (and a partial relief) - thanks. So anyone can make documents that would be freely readable and easy to obtain direct to the iPad?

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UltraJv wrote:
spaceman wrote:
UltraJv wrote: Im doubtful it will find widespread use in the field. You need a proper keyboard for that. Prodding at the screen keyboard while seeing only half a document dosnt cut it. Tablets were out years ago and failed due to lack of decent keyboard. Some still survive but also have a keyboard :

http://www.dell.com/tablet
That's what they said about the iPhone (and other phones with onscreen keyboards) but look how that one flew of.

In practice, it won't be that bad at all and I think it will fall into a range where there is balance between compromise, usability and functionality
Or you could buy the Dell Tablet and get it all, multi touch, multi tasking, keyboard and it will run standard apps...
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UltraJv wrote:
spaceman wrote:
UltraJv wrote: Im doubtful it will find widespread use in the field. You need a proper keyboard for that. Prodding at the screen keyboard while seeing only half a document dosnt cut it. Tablets were out years ago and failed due to lack of decent keyboard. Some still survive but also have a keyboard :

http://www.dell.com/tablet
That's what they said about the iPhone (and other phones with onscreen keyboards) but look how that one flew of.

In practice, it won't be that bad at all and I think it will fall into a range where there is balance between compromise, usability and functionality
Or you could buy the Dell Tablet and get it all, multi touch, multi tasking, keyboard and it will run standard apps...
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jones-y wrote:And by the way, My (and many others')intent with both my old palm and windows mobile devices was to make music on the go. So, relevant again...
It always amuses the hell out of me when people say shit like that. Make music on the go? Going where? What the f**k for?

Like, "Oh, I have to create this shitty beat right now while I'm standing in line at the grocery store, waiting to pay for this milk."
"a confession without need of absolution, without need of redemption"

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headquest wrote:
unpeople wrote:
headquest wrote:...and [e-books] would need to be in the Apple format to work with their reader.
Not so. Apple uses the open .epub format.
That's good news (and a partial relief) - thanks. So anyone can make documents that would be freely readable and easy to obtain direct to the iPad?
Well if the ibooks store is anything like iTunes, independent writers and smaller publishers could sell their wares alongside the big boys...

And you still have filesharing, so if for example, Apple makes the stupid move of blocking some book, all the writer has to do is offer it as a download in .epub format on his personal website, which you could then transfer to your iPad. Hypothetically... I'm sure iBooks will have a Mac/PC equivalent much like iTunes, which will allow you to manage the content on your iPad...

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vespers75 wrote:
jones-y wrote:And by the way, My (and many others')intent with both my old palm and windows mobile devices was to make music on the go. So, relevant again...
It always amuses the hell out of me when people say shit like that. Make music on the go? Going where? What the f**k for?

Like, "Oh, I have to create this shitty beat right now while I'm standing in line at the grocery store, waiting to pay for this milk."
- I commute to work on the train. That's about 90 kid/wife/boss free minutes a day.

- I sometimes go on vacations or business trips. My ASR-10 doesn't fit into carry-on.

- I like to combat writers (producers/composers) block with a change of scenery from time to time.

Erm... its the same for any other type of portable electronics leveraged for any other purpose: Because the person is not at home or the office...

edit: Oh and its not about making a complete musical piece in 10 minutes... Its about idea generation, inspiration, and the ability to capture all that right here, right now.

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And its not the machine that makes music. Its the musician. So if your music is crappy then dont blame your iphone... LOL!

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@ Jonesy: Yes. Well. Laptops work very well for that kind of thing NOW, and the paddy thing obviously won't.
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UltraJv wrote:Or you could buy the Dell Tablet and get it all, multi touch, multi tasking, keyboard and it will run standard apps...
You mean the Dell will run Logic, Final Cut Pro, Garageband and other "standard apps" many of us take for granted?

Sounds great ;)

Peace,
Andy.

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god I hate apples marketing people and Jobs is one of them - the biggest manufacturer of hand held electronics - complete nonsense - their turnover has been bigger than Nokias in one quarter- the problem is nokias turnover includes almost nothing from itunes and computers, which lets face it are hardly handheld

If merely producing a handheld consumer device means you get to play this game go and look up Sony - and there sales dont even include those of Sony Ericcson

Now if jobs had said most profitable manufacturer of hand held electronics (because we treat you like suckers and over charge) I wouldn't disagree with him, even if he missed out the bit in brackets - but instead is more advertising bullshit
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jones-y wrote:- I commute to work on the train. That's about 90 kid/wife/boss free minutes a day.
Yeah, a moving train full of people is the perfect environment to work on your next track...
jones-y wrote:- I sometimes go on vacations or business trips. My ASR-10 doesn't fit into carry-on.
So do I. Not once have I felt a desperate urge to make music on a phone, an iMaxiPad, or any other silly new gadget some f**k-stick wants to sell me.
jones-y wrote:- I like to combat writers (producers/composers) block with a change of scenery from time to time.

Erm... its the same for any other type of portable electronics leveraged for any other purpose: Because the person is not at home or the office.

edit: Oh and its not about making a complete musical piece in 10 minutes... Its about idea generation, inspiration, and the ability to capture all that right here, right now.
For those who even get "writer's block", one of the best ways to cure it is to get away from music for a bit, take a little break from it all...not be wired into music 24/7.
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Hovmod wrote:@ Jonesy: Yes. Well. Laptops work very well for that kind of thing NOW, and the paddy thing obviously won't.
Oh yes it will. I could run beatmaker, isyn or idrum on it right now today if I had one in my hands. and think of what the future will bring, in terms of apps leveraging that much screen space...

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vespers75 wrote:
jones-y wrote:- I commute to work on the train. That's about 90 kid/wife/boss free minutes a day.
Yeah, a moving train full of people is the perfect environment to work on your next track...
jones-y wrote:- I sometimes go on vacations or business trips. My ASR-10 doesn't fit into carry-on.
So do I. Not once have I felt a desperate urge to make music on a phone, an iMaxiPad, or any other silly new gadget some f**k-stick wants to sell me.
jones-y wrote:- I like to combat writers (producers/composers) block with a change of scenery from time to time.

Erm... its the same for any other type of portable electronics leveraged for any other purpose: Because the person is not at home or the office.

edit: Oh and its not about making a complete musical piece in 10 minutes... Its about idea generation, inspiration, and the ability to capture all that right here, right now.
For those who even get "writer's block", one of the best ways to cure it is to get away from music for a bit, take a little break from it all...not be wired into music 24/7.
Okay good for you. Thank God we're allowed to be different...

Especially in the sense that I won't patronize you for being different...

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ZenPunkHippy wrote:
UltraJv wrote:Or you could buy the Dell Tablet and get it all, multi touch, multi tasking, keyboard and it will run standard apps...
You mean the Dell will run Logic, Final Cut Pro, Garageband and other "standard apps" many of us take for granted?

Sounds great ;)

Peace,
Andy.
I was reffering to Spacemans post on bussiness applications for ipad. - 10/10 for wrong context lol

PS - you cant run Logic, Final Cut Pro, Garageband on ipad either. Bet you could run Hackintosh and all that on the Dell though :-)
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ericj23 wrote:god I hate apples marketing people and Jobs is one of them - the biggest manufacturer of hand held electronics - complete nonsense - their turnover has been bigger than Nokias in one quarter- the problem is nokias turnover includes almost nothing from itunes and computers, which lets face it are hardly handheld

If merely producing a handheld consumer device means you get to play this game go and look up Sony - and there sales dont even include those of Sony Ericcson

Now if jobs had said most profitable manufacturer of hand held electronics (because we treat you like suckers and over charge) I wouldn't disagree with him, even if he missed out the bit in brackets - but instead is more advertising bullshit
You're forgetting that almost everything Apple sells is portable. Only the iMac, mac mini and mac pro aren't. And none of those are in their top sellers. I seriously doubt they're counting sales of anything other than portable electronics in that statement. But if it rubs you the wrong way, go find something to prove they are making false assertions...

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