Berlin Modular (ancient thread)

[zerocrossing]

Good to hear. Pre-patching a modular causes more confusion in my opinion.

I prefer the idea of working with discreet modules myself.

It's the one thing about ACE that bugs me. To me modular means YOU hook it up. The first thing I thought when I launched ACE was, "Why the hell is this thing making noise?"

[snigelx]

Good to hear. Pre-patching a modular causes more confusion in my opinion.

I prefer the idea of working with discreet modules myself.

It's the one thing about ACE that bugs me. To me modular means YOU hook it up. The first thing I thought when I launched ACE was, "Why the hell is this thing making noise?"

This makes ACE...well, ACE. I believe Urs was trying to make this a fun less-complicated and more inspiring piece of software without preconceptions.

[Urs]

Mono/Poly has one very distinctive mode, that might be nice to implement in modular.

If one key is pressed -- all four oscs are playing the same note; If two -- pair is playing note one, other pair is playing voice two; If three -- 2 + 1 + 1; If four -- all four different oscs are playing different notes.

Seems like Bazille architecture is very suitable for such mode.

(subscribed)

Interesting! This seems like an extension to the Duophonic mode that recently entered Zebra, ACE and also Bazille.

Is the order of "voices" by note, or in the order the keys were pressed?

[david.beholder]

Interesting! This seems like an extension to the Duophonic mode that recently entered Zebra, ACE and also Bazille.

Is the order of "voices" by note, or in the order the keys were pressed?

I frankly don't remember. It's clear in case of sequence. It better be root in case of chord, or if there's no chord detection it should be lowest (wich is root in first inversion )

I also remember funky gimmik with chord memory -- in order to have minor / major scale you should do following steps:

1. Memorize secod inversion of chord -- your 2nd note of triplet is lowest
2. Turn on pitchwheel mode that allows chnage only osc1 by pitch wheel
3. Play with one finger, change major/minor with other

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It also could make sence to have one filter per one osc for duophonic and pseudo poliphonic modes. In this case it could be 4 voice poliphonic with absolutely different voicing and filtering options.

[snigelx]

I have a friend who has one of these very fun beauties. Great arppegios come out of this thing from what I recall by turning on and off OSCs in seq...very weird functions I remember.

Here's some info about the modes I just found on Wikipedia. i'd love to see some of these incorporated in BM as well! great idea David:

"Controller Interfaces are external inputs/outputs for CV/Trigger, VCF and VCO mod inputs, arpeggiator, portamento, and the pitch/MG1 mod wheels can be assigned to control VCO1 pitch, pitch or the filter. bender goes to 2.5 octaves +/- for Pitch and full range for VCF cutoff (yow!). There are 5 different oscillator assignment modes: Hold: drones the oscillators until force dampered or Chord Memory is activated; Chord Memory (MONO): allows 2-4 oscillators (VCOs) to be set to any arrangement across 44 keys (great for organ or rave chords); Unison (MONO): stacks all 4 oscillators; Unison/Share: This mode defaults to Unison with one note played, but divides the oscillators across the notes as 2 or more are played; Poly is without explanation, and oscillators always play in sequenced order from 1-4."

more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_mono/poly
and here: http://www.vintagesynth.com/korg/mopo.php

[Lotuzia]

Mono/Poly has one very distinctive mode, that might be nice to implement in modular.

If one key is pressed -- all four oscs are playing the same note; If two -- pair is playing note one, other pair is playing voice two; If three -- 2 + 1 + 1; If four -- all four different oscs are playing different notes.

Seems like Bazille architecture is very suitable for such mode.

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Interesting! This seems like an extension to the Duophonic mode that recently entered Zebra, ACE and also Bazille.

Is the order of "voices" by note, or in the order the keys were pressed?

In the order the keys are pressed ( the first note strucked will always trigger the first OSC, then the second will trigger the second Osc, etc)

Then voices are set free according when the Gain EV has been completed.

LtZ

[david.beholder]

In the order the keys are pressed ( the first note strucked will always trigger the first OSC, then the second will trigger the second Osc, etc)

Then voices are set free according when the Gain EV has been completed.

LtZ

And if it is a chord?

[snigelx]

there is a good demo of a guy explaining the mono/poly on youtube. see if you can find that. he speaks about the chord memory and key modes etc

[OctopusEmpire]

there is a good demo of a guy explaining the mono/poly on youtube. see if you can find that. he speaks about the chord memory and key modes etc

This guy has quite a few very good demos where he explains the functions of the synth in depth.

Cheers.

[snigelx]

there is a good demo of a guy explaining the mono/poly on youtube. see if you can find that. he speaks about the chord memory and key modes etc

This guy has quite a few very good demos where he explains the functions of the synth in depth.

Cheers.

that is the one.

[puzzlefactory]

Just had my first proper play with this today and it sounds amazing, made quite a nice sounding techno/electro pad lead thing.

The GUI starts to get a bit hectic when patches start getting a bit interesting. Is there some feature for making the virtual patch cabals invisible or see through? If not it might be something worth thinking about.......

[bmrzycki]

Is there some feature for making the virtual patch cabals invisible or see through?

I know ACE has the feature to right-click on the cable source and set them to "line". I'm pretty sure the BM beta has it as well.

[dave dove]

hey urs

i've been looking at numerology modular sequencer

i remember something came up before about incorporating sequencers into berlin modular and was wondering if you could look at the discrete sequencing effects numerology can do
love the little sequencer in bazille
it is intuitive and very quick to use
would really love to extend that into some new possibilities

looking forward

dave

[oneonezero]

du mit deinen durchsichtigen kabeln.

please never stop.

-110

[jensa]

du mit deinen durchsichtigen kabeln.

please never stop.

-110

Haha. Spot on! Even a Swede understands that without Babelfishing.