Parasite frequencies
-
- KVRAF
- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5558 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Maybe they are all good, but in the mix some frequencies can make some ringing resonant sound, which can muddy the mix.Kim (esoundz) wrote:None of them. All frequencies are good!
-Kim.
I found that if i cut around 1000Hz, i get better sound in the mix overall.
Or, what frequencies to avoid(reduce) in the mix?
-
- KVRAF
- 3386 posts since 19 Mar, 2008 from germany
I 
vote for the freedom of all frequencies!
vote for the freedom of all frequencies! free mp3s + info: andy-enroe.de songs + weird stuff: enroe.de
-
- Beware the Quoth
- 35520 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
you seriously think thats something to do with a specific waveform being used?Igro wrote:Maybe they are all good, but in the mix some frequencies can make some ringing resonant sound, which can muddy the mix.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
-
- KVRAF
- 2285 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan
Fingernails on chalkboard = about 4kHz. That's a good frequency to cut a bit. Maybe that resonates with something in our ears? There may be a few others as well.
Other than that, wouldn't it depend on the specific context? Cut to fit, I'd imagine... if you have a really busy mix with a dozen instruments peaking at, say, 550 Hz, you'd need to do some eq so that they could all fit in together. (Even so, you'd probably want to adjust the mix and arrangement first, right?)
Other than that, wouldn't it depend on the specific context? Cut to fit, I'd imagine... if you have a really busy mix with a dozen instruments peaking at, say, 550 Hz, you'd need to do some eq so that they could all fit in together. (Even so, you'd probably want to adjust the mix and arrangement first, right?)
Wait... loot _then_ burn? D'oh!
-
- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
Yeah, a square wave in a square room is asking for troubleloopdon wrote:The room could come into play as well.
My MusicCalc is temporary offline.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
We are the KVR collective. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.
-
- KVRian
- 1477 posts since 16 Jul, 2007 from In limbo
This has confused me (like many things)!
I agree with Kim and whyterabbyt's good points - particularly as when I create a new song from scratch, clearly the issue is which sounds to pick whilst recording/arranging which work together - but is there something different when purely mixing someone else's work with particular frequencies being bad?
I am intrigued by your point Igro - please are you able to post up some examples of what you mean?
Thank you
I agree with Kim and whyterabbyt's good points - particularly as when I create a new song from scratch, clearly the issue is which sounds to pick whilst recording/arranging which work together - but is there something different when purely mixing someone else's work with particular frequencies being bad?
I am intrigued by your point Igro - please are you able to post up some examples of what you mean?
Thank you
-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5558 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Ok,i will explain.
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
-
- Beware the Quoth
- 35520 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
is your room properly treated?Igro wrote:Ok,i will explain.
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5558 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
I hear it on my headphones, so i don't think situation will change on monitors.whyterabbyt wrote:is your room properly treated?Igro wrote:Ok,i will explain.
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
Resonance increase with reverb.
-
- KVRAF
- 6482 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
Do you mean single notes or chords? Do you have some examples?Igro wrote:Ok,i will explain.
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
At a guess, this is just an interaction between the harmonics of the individual notes, possibly because with equal temperament a strong harmonic of a lower note will be subtly different to the fundamental of a note played more than an octave above. This can sound harsh in some cases, depending on the chord and how much filtering is applied to the waveforms.
-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5558 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere
Here is quick example:Gamma-UT wrote:Do you mean single notes or chords? Do you have some examples?Igro wrote:Ok,i will explain.
When i create pads, i notice that on some notes sounds produce really unpleasant resonance, especially on ooh-aah pads. Is this thing natural at all, or i should try to rid off it?
At a guess, this is just an interaction between the harmonics of the individual notes, possibly because with equal temperament a strong harmonic of a lower note will be subtly different to the fundamental of a note played more than an octave above. This can sound harsh in some cases, depending on the chord and how much filtering is applied to the waveforms.
Res.mp3 - 0.37MB
It's not chord. It consist of two different waves by the same pitch, but detuned. Especially last one give this bad self-oscillating effect.