I use two keyboards live, both connected to receptor and face one challenge setting up the midi map for NI B4II which is one of the few VSTi that has different internal instruments with internal midi routing, midi ch 1 is upper - 2 is the lower - 3 is bas pedals. I have in addition an external midi drawbar controller to govern all the B4 controls.
I want to use only one B4 VSTi, say it's on Receptor channel 1.
Now, I want my upper physical keyboard to be mapped to the B4 internal ch 1, and the second physical keyboard to be mapped to internal ch 2.
Now I face a problem. Each of the 16 Receptor instrument channels have a midi listen channel and plugin midi channel, and they are limited to a one-to-one matrix, it only listens to one and route it to one.
Now, I could use two receptor channels each loaded with a B4. And map the keyboards to each one. But now I face problems with the controls of the B4. No me gusta.
Or did I miss something? I understand the point of a one-to-one matrix limitation per channel, but it would not hurt if one receptor channel could listen to more than one spesific midi ch, and route them to selected plugin channels.
Regards
Eystein
midi mapping and the B4 using two keyboards, impossible?
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Kevin@MuseResearch Kevin@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200693
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- 188 posts since 11 Feb, 2009
Eystein,
I understand your confusion over the 'one to one' matrix style system and hope to shed some light. You may have noticed at the end of each row of numbers is 'all' and 'thru'. What you want to do is select both of these options to use multiple MIDI channels withhin B4 II. What this does is effectively bypass Receptor's entire system for configuring MIDI channels so that you can use the plugin to foncigure MIDI routing.
- Kevin
I understand your confusion over the 'one to one' matrix style system and hope to shed some light. You may have noticed at the end of each row of numbers is 'all' and 'thru'. What you want to do is select both of these options to use multiple MIDI channels withhin B4 II. What this does is effectively bypass Receptor's entire system for configuring MIDI channels so that you can use the plugin to foncigure MIDI routing.
- Kevin
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
Thank you Kevin, I did miss that. Receptor is indeed showing muscles.
I just hooked it up with a real Leslie 122. The voltage output of the Receptor show no problem to drive the input of the Leslie amp, however folks, keep in mind the 6 dB drop if the wiring is not kept balanced.
Next version of the sound card of the Receptor should include a balanced mono out (a simple hw mono derived from the L & R)
-Eystein
BR, Eystein
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Kevin@MuseResearch Kevin@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200693
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- 188 posts since 11 Feb, 2009
Eystein,
For now you can use the free plugin 'mono maker' on your master bus to get the same effect for mono. If you cannot find dfx monomaker on your receptor just open a support ticket at www.plugorama.com/hd.php and support team can get an installer for it to you.
- Kevin
For now you can use the free plugin 'mono maker' on your master bus to get the same effect for mono. If you cannot find dfx monomaker on your receptor just open a support ticket at www.plugorama.com/hd.php and support team can get an installer for it to you.
- Kevin
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- KVRist
- 197 posts since 23 Jan, 2006 from Ontario, Canada
To make the master output mono, you could also try my free GH-LRSelector plugin found at the bottom of this page.
Greg Holmes
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Retailer: Acoustic Image, BassLab, Muse Receptor, MIDIjet, Rayzoon Jamstix, and more...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
thanks both,
I use the monomaker. But the best would be to avoid panning. I'll get the Grefen TV-DAC and use the SPDIF for the Leslie speaker, and only monoing each channel by FX.
I miss to be able to control the receptor mixer parameters still when the "pass CC to VST" is enabled in setup. I want CC to be directed to BOTH the mixer and the VSTs.
I work on a developing a Midi device that let me control selected group of instruments with the CC volume command from one controller. Next version of receptor should have a "listen to CC" channel setup and maybe even a CC filter. Then e.g. one expression pedal jacked into one keyboard would control the volume of selected instruments played also by other keyboards, and not only the channel setup for the keyboard with the pedal. Controlling volume with the right foot on stage is alpha&omega not only for me I think ;-)
- Eystein
I use the monomaker. But the best would be to avoid panning. I'll get the Grefen TV-DAC and use the SPDIF for the Leslie speaker, and only monoing each channel by FX.
I miss to be able to control the receptor mixer parameters still when the "pass CC to VST" is enabled in setup. I want CC to be directed to BOTH the mixer and the VSTs.
I work on a developing a Midi device that let me control selected group of instruments with the CC volume command from one controller. Next version of receptor should have a "listen to CC" channel setup and maybe even a CC filter. Then e.g. one expression pedal jacked into one keyboard would control the volume of selected instruments played also by other keyboards, and not only the channel setup for the keyboard with the pedal. Controlling volume with the right foot on stage is alpha&omega not only for me I think ;-)
- Eystein
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Kevin@MuseResearch Kevin@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200693
- MUSEician
- 188 posts since 11 Feb, 2009
Eystein,
Currently there is a provision to allow you to control Receptor's mixer and PLUGIN parameters. But it takes an extra step to set it up. TO do this you use what I call reverse MIDI learn, and that'll make more sense when I describe how to use it. Just open up a plugin ( like B4II) and go to the 'edit' view for that plugin (so that you see it's GUI). Now at the top of the middle of the Receptor viewer you'll see 3 small buttons. One has a little picture of receptor with an arrow pointing down. Click on this to turn MIDI CC mode on. Now move a parameter on the plugin and the parameter name should show up in the upper right hand corner of the screen. If this is a parameter you'd like to use just press the down arrow to the right of the parameter name. You'll see a number assigned to it (1 if at first and then it'll count up to 16 as you add more parameters). Clicking on that number will bring up a list of parameter names and the CC number/midi channel you use to control that parameter. Using this method allows you to control parameters on both the mixer and in a plugin.
- Kevin
Currently there is a provision to allow you to control Receptor's mixer and PLUGIN parameters. But it takes an extra step to set it up. TO do this you use what I call reverse MIDI learn, and that'll make more sense when I describe how to use it. Just open up a plugin ( like B4II) and go to the 'edit' view for that plugin (so that you see it's GUI). Now at the top of the middle of the Receptor viewer you'll see 3 small buttons. One has a little picture of receptor with an arrow pointing down. Click on this to turn MIDI CC mode on. Now move a parameter on the plugin and the parameter name should show up in the upper right hand corner of the screen. If this is a parameter you'd like to use just press the down arrow to the right of the parameter name. You'll see a number assigned to it (1 if at first and then it'll count up to 16 as you add more parameters). Clicking on that number will bring up a list of parameter names and the CC number/midi channel you use to control that parameter. Using this method allows you to control parameters on both the mixer and in a plugin.
- Kevin