I tried to "recreate" a piano in Zebra and noticed that I'm not able to create inharmonicity in the higher spectrum without changing the overall fundamental. I thought about layering, tried the comb filter in diff mode and added fm + ring modulation with various inputsignals in the signalchain, but at the end I wasn't satisified with the results.
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How do you go about (musical) inharmonicity?
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Would it be possible to add/code a feature to the spectroblend mode which allows you to detune the individual harmonics? Or are there any other features of Zebra that could help me out?
Inharmonicity
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- KVRist
- 40 posts since 26 Feb, 2010
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Yes there are different things to try to get those harmonics.
If you have 2 sound sources, one is the predominant tone, the other for harmonics.
Try adjusting the "keyscale" knob for the one wanting the harmonics.
Especially try that with a comb filter, in "difference" or "dissonant" modes.
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An osc set to "spectromorph" or "spectroblend" modes.
In combination with different "osc spectral fx" settings. (try odd/even-sync mojo). Then along with that try adding sync with "velocity" set to the mod source. Different wave forms, and velocity set to morph them.
You can take a look-(dl) a piano patch I did last year from this post here for ideas.
(plain piano)
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 97&start=0
If you have 2 sound sources, one is the predominant tone, the other for harmonics.
Try adjusting the "keyscale" knob for the one wanting the harmonics.
Especially try that with a comb filter, in "difference" or "dissonant" modes.
and-or-
An osc set to "spectromorph" or "spectroblend" modes.
In combination with different "osc spectral fx" settings. (try odd/even-sync mojo). Then along with that try adding sync with "velocity" set to the mod source. Different wave forms, and velocity set to morph them.
You can take a look-(dl) a piano patch I did last year from this post here for ideas.
(plain piano)
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 97&start=0
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 26 Feb, 2010
Thank you mcnoone. These pointers are very helpful.
Working with two sound sources does the job for me.
Your piano patch sounds nice, but theres no octave stretching, too.
It still sounds a little bit too synthetic.
I just wanted to find out which elements a realistic piano sound needs
to apply them to other patches. Untill now, i had no luck...
Working with two sound sources does the job for me.
Your piano patch sounds nice, but theres no octave stretching, too.
It still sounds a little bit too synthetic.
I just wanted to find out which elements a realistic piano sound needs
to apply them to other patches. Untill now, i had no luck...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 26 Feb, 2010
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Hey...sounds great.
The playing is amazing too.
Hope to get to check out the preset sometime.
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- KVRAF
- 26978 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
on some string sounds, to get the sound how I want across a broader range of notes I will use the modmapper in keyboard mode then you can modulate a particular parameter by each note... it is tedious to go note by note... but it really lets you control the sound key by key... the only thing I wish is that there were more than 2 modmappers which is way too few
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- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Try this one:
http://www.xsynth.com/download/PPG_Mode ... no_b05.zip
Its an old patch but my best shot so far.
/Michael
http://www.xsynth.com/download/PPG_Mode ... no_b05.zip
Its an old patch but my best shot so far.
/Michael
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