KVR Audio

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:19 am

hakey wrote:My argument wasn't a general 'Elek7ro is teh best synth', rather, it was directed toward bassdrive's comment that Synth1's basic synth engine is better than Elek7ro's - I think that there are some quasi-objective criteria by which one can judge the various qualities of the synth engines and on such criteria Elek7ro wins out.

Hakey relax, my post wasn't aimed at you

I completely agree that Synth1 doesn't have the best sound engine. But I also stated several times now that how 'good' a synth is does not purely depend on the quality of the sound engine. A great sound engine does not automatically make a great synthesizer

The way Synth1 sounds is a big part of it's charm. If anyone thinks it doesn't sound as good as (for example) Elek7ro then by all means use that one instead. I myself don't think one sounds better then the other, to me they just sound different so they give me different sounds and possibilities

hakey · Post by **hakey** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:28 am

crimsonwarlock wrote:Hakey relax, my post wasn't aimed at you

I'm quite relaxed

I did start that post saying that I agreed with what you'd said - and my post wasn't really aimed at you either, it was more a clarification of my POV re bassdriver's post.

Anyway, I agree, Synth1 has it's own sound, it's flexible and easy to use, ultra light on cpu and has a ton of interesting and varied patches, so it's got plenty to recommend it

(and that's now the third time I'v said as much

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3ee · Post by **3ee** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:43 am

hakey wrote:3ee, how about comparing FM, or filter cut off at high res, or the transition of the filter to self oscillation?

I wanted to compair the quality of the oscillators.. and to proove that Synth1 is in need for a sound quality upgrade that's all... IMO Synth1's filter and fm are more usefull than Tal Elek7ro's ones so no need for comparison there.

Synth1 is still a great little synth, easy to use, loads of really nice patches etc.. but I think I said that already

I agree... I like and use Synth1 myself. I just suggested for a sound update that's all.

(Synth A is Elek7ro - what do I win?)

Yes A= Elek7ro, B= Synth1 .. you won an emoticon

PlasticSoul · Post by **PlasticSoul** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:45 am

does synth1 got a a BigTone (brok landers) bank?
I want a cfa (cyforce) soundbank too... ah, and a rob_lee too...
and maybe a soundorder too... and what about an arksun soundbank???

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:46 am

One thing about Synth1 is for sure..
Kvr is bound to make Ichiro-san run for the hills in no time

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:23 pm

I can't help wondering what kinds and range of sounds you'd get from Elek7tro (or whatever the freaking spelling is) if you applied the same amount of FX Synth1 has... considering the difference in terms of objective quality

Yes, if one likes that kind of abrasive, digital sound is perfectly fine to use it (I made an album using almost exclusively this http://www.kvraudio.com/get/227.html I don't know how many of you would choose to). But saying it sounds better than other free synths out there means losing perspective...

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:58 pm

PlasticSoul wrote:does synth1 got a a BigTone (brok landers) bank?
I want a cfa (cyforce) soundbank too... ah, and a rob_lee too...
and maybe a soundorder too... and what about an arksun soundbank???

every now and then, if i find the time, i do a sound on synth1. as soon as the bank is full, i'll probably release it ... but i can't say when that is ...

Lunatique · Post by **Lunatique** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:14 pm

Toda-San,

ちょうど興味から、私達を幾年もの間連絡することを試みるために知ったか? KVRAudio.comがあったことを知ったか? なぜ最終的にすべてのこれらの年後に私達に訪問を支払うことにしたか? 私はあなたの背景についてまた好奇心が強い。あなたの刺激は何をSynth1を作成するための前にすべてのそれらの年あったか? 音楽的なソフトウェアを作成する欲求を有するか? あなたの音楽的な背景は何であるか? 私はあなたの仕事としてプログラムソフトウェア仮定する(音楽におそらく関連していなくて)か?

Just out of curiosity, did you know we have been trying to contact you for years? Did you know that KVRAudio.com existed? Why you finally decided to pay us a visit after all these years?

I'm also curious about your background. What was your motivation for creating Synth1 all those years ago? Do you have the desire to create more musical software? What's your musical background? I assume you program software as your job (but probably not related to music)?

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:23 pm

Wow. Now Mr. Toda himself posts on this thread.. best thread ever.

Also, I see some of you are using my old patch bank for Synth1.. please keep in mind this was made on 1.05 or 1.06 before the sound engine was updated so some of the 'current' features are not used right now.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 3:52 pm

mcnoone wrote:I can't get the presets to show up in the Synth1 update, on XP.
Everythings where it should be in the vstplugins folder, and there is sound, but no presets, which are in the folders. Strange.
A message says invalid folder. Any ideas?

Maybe run the initsettings.exe again, and choose a simpler path, perhaps just
C:\Synth1
thats how my linux setup is working. initsettings.exe will ask if you want to change locations each time you run it.

Cheers

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:00 pm

I believe the One Synth Competition (OSC) we had some time ago with Synth1 played a role in his decision to update the instrument, as most of the issues he has addressed with this update came to light thru the posts related to the OSC...

Yeager · Post by **Yeager** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:14 pm

Mac of BIOnighT wrote:... as most of the issues he has addressed with this update came to light thru the posts related to the OSC...

Are the patches saved with the song now, I remember you and V'ger had problems with that ?

Mac of BIOnighT · Post by **Mac of BIOnighT** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:23 pm

I haven't had the time to check the new version out, yet, unfortunately, so I wouldn't know

I sure hope so, as that was hell...

VSTadapter · Post by **VSTadapter** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:51 pm

an other thing i hate (gui) is the vertical bar popup when touching every knob!
It kills the "focus"

Dandruff · Post by **Dandruff** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:00 pm

VSTadapter wrote:an other thing i hate (gui) is the vertical bar popup when touching every knob!
It kills the "focus"

Just disable it if you don't like it.

Ichiro Toda Updates Synth1 !!!!!1.12version!!!!!!!!!