Time signature changes within compositions for Mulab?
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- KVRist
- 144 posts since 15 Oct, 2009 from Perth, Australia
Hi all - I know that Jo has said that being able to change time signatures within a composition is on the wishlist. I thought I'd put up a poll to gauge how important this feature is for Mulab users.
For me it's vital - most of my music uses time signature changes, and since I Rewire Reason/Record to Mulab it's a real pain, as the Reason/Record click track syncs to Mulab's time signature. I love Mulab but I'm finding myself using it less frequently because of this limitation.
What do you reckon? Do you want time signature changes incorporated in Mulab?
Cheers!
For me it's vital - most of my music uses time signature changes, and since I Rewire Reason/Record to Mulab it's a real pain, as the Reason/Record click track syncs to Mulab's time signature. I love Mulab but I'm finding myself using it less frequently because of this limitation.
What do you reckon? Do you want time signature changes incorporated in Mulab?
Cheers!
- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I voted 2 from a personal view point. Whilst I think it's essential, eventually, that MU.LAB supports it, personally I can live without it.
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- KVRist
- 131 posts since 10 Jan, 2010 from York, UK
If there was a category 1(a), eg "very important/almost vital", that's where my vote would lie.outbackyak wrote:.... I thought I'd put up a poll to gauge how important this feature is for Mulab users.
........ What do you reckon? Do you want time signature changes incorporated in Mulab?
Cheers!
As it stands I'll default to 2.
Les J.
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TheGuysanIdiot TheGuysanIdiot https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=213066
- KVRist
- 308 posts since 10 Aug, 2009 from United Kingdom
Hi All,
I tend to use 4/4 for all my stuff.
I vary the tracks feel with dynamics and tempo changes.
For me the per composition is fine.
But I can see that some users may want 4/4 verse and 3/4 chorus etc.
I voted option 3 personally as I am happy with my style of music writing.
OZ
I tend to use 4/4 for all my stuff.
I vary the tracks feel with dynamics and tempo changes.
For me the per composition is fine.
But I can see that some users may want 4/4 verse and 3/4 chorus etc.
I voted option 3 personally as I am happy with my style of music writing.
OZ
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
I don't use time signature changes that often meself, but I do see it as a fundamental feature that a DAW should be capable of.
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- KVRist
- 357 posts since 5 Aug, 2006 from St. Louis
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- KVRist
- 442 posts since 21 Jan, 2008
I abolutely need this so i voted one.And the time sign shange is fundamental for a daw.
I hope it's on the top of the wishlist Jo
I hope it's on the top of the wishlist Jo
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
I vote 1 for two reasons:
Reason 1: I have music to import in M3 (yes Reason) with those time changes. Not much but I do have it and there is more on the way. I usually use 4/4....
Reason 2: MuLab future. We need more professionals here. This DAW must go to another level to really be market stable/financial. So this feature needs to get in. It is not really a feature but a Music reality and can not be delayed too long.
Not a super rush but a look-ahead safety move.
Reason 1: I have music to import in M3 (yes Reason) with those time changes. Not much but I do have it and there is more on the way. I usually use 4/4....
Reason 2: MuLab future. We need more professionals here. This DAW must go to another level to really be market stable/financial. So this feature needs to get in. It is not really a feature but a Music reality and can not be delayed too long.
Not a super rush but a look-ahead safety move.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST 
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
No doubt that time signature changes is a more pro/advanced feature.
The question is whether that's the direction MU.LAB should evolve. I don't think so. Which does not mean i don't want to further enrich MU.LAB's functional palette. Of course i want that. But i doubt whether it's a good choice to push MU.LAB towards Logic, Cubase, Reaper etc, the 'DAW' apps.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying time signature changes are not important. But i think there are more important things on the wishlist. I hope to startup some polls and discussions about this around mid june.
The question is whether that's the direction MU.LAB should evolve. I don't think so. Which does not mean i don't want to further enrich MU.LAB's functional palette. Of course i want that. But i doubt whether it's a good choice to push MU.LAB towards Logic, Cubase, Reaper etc, the 'DAW' apps.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying time signature changes are not important. But i think there are more important things on the wishlist. I hope to startup some polls and discussions about this around mid june.
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- KVRian
- 644 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
Well that's just stopped me buying it! I've been enjoying using/testing to MULAB FREE, but this is one feature that is IMHO just daft to leave out of any DAW. MULAB isn't going to become just another DAW like Cubase if TimeSigs are added as a feature. Time Sig changes have been used by musicians for hundreds of years.mutools wrote:No doubt that time signature changes is a more pro/advanced feature.
The question is whether that's the direction MU.LAB should evolve. I don't think so. Which does not mean i don't want to further enrich MU.LAB's functional palette. Of course i want that. But i doubt whether it's a good choice to push MU.LAB towards Logic, Cubase, Reaper etc, the 'DAW' apps.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying time signature changes are not important. But i think there are more important things on the wishlist. I hope to startup some polls and discussions about this around mid june.
I just don't understand this reluctance to implement?
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
It's all a matter of how you sort the items of the wishlist. What's on top will be implemented first. But the what gets on top? That's the question!mutools wrote:Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying time signature changes are not important.
Other very important things on the wishlist (unsorted), just to name a few obvious items: Even more easy workflow, multicore support, stretchable audio loops, more modular modules, breakpoint automations from within composer, much larger preset libraries, enhanced exchangability, etc...
Maybe for you time signature changes is more important than a much larger preset library, and for someone else multicore support is more important than time signature changes etc.
I hope to startup some polls and discussions about this around mid june.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
This feature may be very important to you like many others are crucial to me.hudson_m4000 wrote:Well that's just stopped me buying it! I've been enjoying using/testing to MULAB FREE, but this is one feature that is IMHO just daft to leave out of any DAW. MULAB isn't going to become just another DAW like Cubase if TimeSigs are added as a feature. Time Sig changes have been used by musicians for hundreds of years.
I just don't understand this reluctance to implement?
I just hope you evaluate and balance the Pro and Cons before walking away from this increasingly powerful DAW. I spent months evaluating it working with Jo and other smart and advanced users and, one by one, feature by feature, Jo was able to implement most of our requests and some.
Believe me, it was and it's still worth the wait.
Your request it's important because as a user you mean a lot for MuLab.
Stick around, we'll have fun!
ABEFLGMOPPRRST 
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
I disagree with this. I had ideas for songs in 3/4 and other signatures well before I even touched a DAW, as I'm sure many others have. It is a feature, but it's one that makes it easier to work with a musical idea that anyone might have and for that reason I can't see how it can be conceived of as a pro feature.mutools wrote:No doubt that time signature changes is a more pro/advanced feature.
- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
To avoid a misconception: it's about time signature changes.
You can make a 3/4 composition in MU.LAB.
You can make a 3/4 composition in MU.LAB.
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- KVRAF
- 2938 posts since 18 Jul, 2005
Ah, composition properties. I hadn't realised! Good stuff.mutools wrote:To avoid a misconception: it's about time signature changes.
You can make a 3/4 composition in MU.LAB.
Anyhow, I think the point still stands that this feature can't really be considered a pro type feature in a DAW, because an amateur DAW user could easily have this fairly basic musical idea.

