yrg thread

[Maruuk]

Is there a good acoustic piano sample in there? I find even with the crappy EZ-EG I can get some half-decent blues playing off it live with its onboard acoustic piano since I play finger-style and can hammer multiple strings a la a keyboard rather than strum. With the YRG, it'd be way better.

[polaris20]

Is there a good acoustic piano sample in there? I find even with the crappy EZ-EG I can get some half-decent blues playing off it live with its onboard acoustic piano since I play finger-style and can hammer multiple strings a la a keyboard rather than strum. With the YRG, it'd be way better.

The regular guitar samples are rather lackluster, so I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you.

I really need this thing, as I'm not having much luck with Roland stuff (I've got a Graphtech/Roland setup now) and I really want to use this in a project I'm working on. I'm in the 400's somewhere in the pre-orders.

[Maruuk]

If this thing works as advertised, I wouldn't want to own any Roland or Z-Tar stock. The days of the complicated and pricey hex pitch-to-midi lagosauruses may be numbered. Toss em in the tar pit.

[polaris20]

If this thing works as advertised, I wouldn't want to own any Roland or Z-Tar stock. The days of the complicated and pricey hex pitch-to-midi lagosauruses may be numbered. Toss em in the tar pit.

I am hopeful too, however the continual delays doesn't look promising as to whether or not they'll ever actually ship my order.

[Maruuk]

It's frustrating to be sure, but they've gone pretty far down the line at this point to drop the ball entirely. I'd get worried if they don't ship by late June. Very worried.

[polaris20]

It's frustrating to be sure, but they've gone pretty far down the line at this point to drop the ball entirely. I'd get worried if they don't ship by late June. Very worried.

Yeah I agree. Don't get me wrong; I want this device REALLY bad. I've already ordered more soft synth/sampler stuff for use with it. It's just getting a little unnerving waiting for it, given that it's a new product from a company I've never heard of.

[RunBeerRun]

I can't see anybody caring about the built-in sounds. I mean there'll probably be some geek from Japan on Youtube using them in the future, but that's about it.

[Maruuk]

No acoustic piano? What were they thinking???

[annode]

Another objective review (how many is that now?)

That would be "subjective" if I follow you..but yes, your right.

Just a crony to try to pacify us with un-necessary info. Just a distraction from the real issues.
- When do the ppl who signed up for pre-orders, (notice the "pre" which mean 'before'), get their guitars?
- We were deceived in believing pre-ordering would get us the guitars before they were commercially distributed. We see that was a deception. I'm not claiming the deception is money driven, although the nature of this thread shows many of us are not happy and feel like we are just waiting for the final screw-job. No-one representing YRG has properly addressed the real questions except one..one you also address...almost.
You only mention the velocity system in terms of the internal sounds and nowhere do you say it's the same when output to VSTi or HW synths. It feels deceiving.

- It's midi-out performance using a guitar pick is always white-washed. There are like, only two meager demo vids showing a back and forth pick style, and the demos only show very tame, slow, precise picking for a very short time.
Why all the finger-picking? Most guitarists use a pick! It's very disturbing to see how little there is considering most guitarists use a pick. Ive said it before...this is how Roland demo'd the GI-10/20 systems to avoid showing the prob when using a standard pick.
You say;

I am not a rock guitarist and rarely use a flatpick anymore. But I am sure it will track flatpicking perfectly also. Fingerpicking is far more difficult to track than flatpicking and guitar strums.

You can't even say you've used a pick on VSTi at ALL! This is so freaking suspicious .
As far as finger-picking being more difficult to track...that's just a down-right lie!
FP styles only use one finger plucking a single string in one direction at any given point in time. Also, each string is not getting picked quickly, as you would with a guitar pick on a single string.
Using a guitar pick in a back a forth motion can induce quick voltage or phase reversing changes in the "string-trigger actuating" design...assuming the design is looking at the string's standing wave. This was a design flaw in the Roland GI series. Maybe we can expect the same in the YRG. This would explain all the finger style demos.

We here at KVR, except maybe only one, could give a flying f**k about internal sounds, but here we are getting educated on internal sounds.

Bottom line. There are ppl like myself who use VSTi who are by far guitar players.
We spent much of our life learning and playing the guitar. Now that we have virtual instruments and HW synths which can be played through midi-code, we are desperately awaiting a proper guitar controller so that WE TOO can also express our talents using virtual music devices.

It's important to us and we won't be happy getting conned.

...Oh and I once posted a bit on your warranty which states that if we take the guitar out of it's plastic wrap, as to test it out, the warranty is voided.
I haven't seen this addressed. Is that for a reason?

We would like a realistic date. Last word by Kevin is that the YRG will be commercially distributed by the end of this month...that doesn't answer our question, "when do the pre-order holders get theirs?"

[mac wilson]

Relax

First, of course fingerpicking is much easier to track, but this fellow hadn't tried a pick so he was speculating (incorrectly though). But his comments are just spam anyway, so who cares?.
(Frankly, i'm reluctant to get negative with this type of thing as i'm new here, so I just mute him. I'll leave that to the regulars if they so choose).

And I don't see why anyone is actually upset about this fiasco. Life's too short to even bother.

When it comes it comes, If it doesn't it doesn't. It ALL looks like smoke to me so I don't ever expect anything.

[annode]

Relax

First, of course fingerpicking is much easier to track, but this fellow hadn't tried a pick so he was speculating (incorrectly though). But his comments are just spam anyway, so who cares?.
(Frankly, i'm reluctant to get negative with this type of thing as i'm new here, so I just mute him. I'll leave that to the regulars if they so choose).

And I don't see why anyone is actually upset about this fiasco. Life's too short to even bother.

When it comes it comes, If it doesn't it doesn't. It ALL looks like smoke to me so I don't ever expect anything.

In my world relaxing doesn't see that anything gets accomplished.
So don't tell me to relax.

[JAMES L. HARRISON]

Maybe he has in mind the Axon, which has a pick detection mode that is faster than the Roland pitch detection units. You can't do that with finger picking because what it detects is the difference between the time it takes the impulse from the pick striking the string to reach the bridge and to be reflected back to the bridge from the nut. That gives pick position, which can be translated into pitch. Or something like that. With finger picking the impulse is not great enough to be reliably detected.

In any event a lot of "experts" [which I'm not] seem to recommend playing the pitch detection units cleanly with a pick, for whatever reason. Roland does not have the Axon pick position detection.

Incidentally Tim has been on the midiguitar Yahoo group for years and has no connection with Inspired other than being selected as a beta tester.

James
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Relax

First, of course fingerpicking is much easier to track, but this fellow hadn't tried a pick so he was speculating (incorrectly though). But his comments are just spam anyway, so who cares?.
(Frankly, i'm reluctant to get negative with this type of thing as i'm new here, so I just mute him. I'll leave that to the regulars if they so choose).

And I don't see why anyone is actually upset about this fiasco. Life's too short to even bother.

When it comes it comes, If it doesn't it doesn't. It ALL looks like smoke to me so I don't ever expect anything.

[bigcraigie_1]

Where did the "End of June" come from?????

Only the other day I got a reply from Kevin @ Inspired confirming that they would be shipped for the end of the month. DJKit here in the UK who are distributing also confirmed they were still expecting them in around the 24th of May.

So where the feck did the end of June now come from????????

[Maruuk]

Sounds realistic. I wouldn't hold your breath at this point.

[annode]

Where did the "End of June" come from?????

Only the other day I got a reply from Kevin @ Inspired confirming that they would be shipped for the end of the month. DJKit here in the UK who are distributing also confirmed they were still expecting them in around the 24th of May.

So where the feck did the end of June now come from????????

It seems to have come from here;
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.music.equip ... y=20100517

...and a response;
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.music. ... itar/22044