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neueliteratur · Post by **neueliteratur** » Sun May 23, 2010 12:31 pm

Hello,

I'd like to realise a 20/16 time signature on MuLab.

Which means I'd like 4 beats per bar, and each beat is divided into 5.

How can I achieve this?

Thank you.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 2:16 pm

Right click the composition background (not one of the tracks), select "Edit Properties", enter number of beats per bar.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun May 23, 2010 2:41 pm

I think he wants to have another division per beat.

I think you need user defined grids for that, which is not yet implemented, but foreseen and on the wishlist.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sun May 23, 2010 2:42 pm

I think he wants a grid step of 5 per beat (20 per bar). I don't think it's possible....

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:35 pm

Yep, my reading skills proving poor again

. However, with a bar of 5/4, you have 20 16th notes per bar; you can phrase them as 4/4 (by playing every fifth 16th note) or in quintuplets (by playing all five). (Did I get out of that?...)

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:41 pm

pljones wrote:Yep, my reading skills proving poor again . However, with a bar of 5/4, you have 20 16th notes per bar; you can phrase them as 4/4 (by playing every fifth 16th note) or in quintuplets (by playing all five). (Did I get out of that?...)

Maybe I lost you....

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:48 pm

liquidsound wrote:Maybe I lost you....

5/4 = five quarter notes = five times four sixteenth notes = 20
20 divided into 5 = 4, so if you play every fifth sixteenth note (dividing the 5/4 bar into four), you get a 4/4 feel; play five sixteenth notes (starting in the right place...) to get quintuplets.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:54 pm

pljones wrote:(starting in the right place...)

I knew there was a catch!
I am using MU.LAB to have an easier life....

neueliteratur · Post by **neueliteratur** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:55 pm

pljones wrote:Yep, my reading skills proving poor again . However, with a bar of 5/4, you have 20 16th notes per bar; you can phrase them as 4/4 (by playing every fifth 16th note) or in quintuplets (by playing all five). (Did I get out of that?...)

Why didn't I think of that? Thanks man.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 4:56 pm

halfstep wrote:Why didn't I think of that? Thanks man.

You weren't under intense pressure not to look completely stupid...

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sun May 23, 2010 5:04 pm

That's simple and easy to understand. Still, best explanation is an example.
Here, have THAT and look at it how it's done

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 5:14 pm

Yeah, like that

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Sun May 23, 2010 5:18 pm

sorohanro wrote:That's simple and easy to understand. Still, best explanation is an example.
Here, have THAT and look at it how it's done

Cool! I have to try this with Tarkus.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun May 23, 2010 8:08 pm

Nowhere near as clear or helpful as sorohanro's session, not really what's being discussed and really just so I can say I've upped the upload limited on MWM to 1000K but here's a silly session I did in a four over five mood:
http://dino.drealm.info/peter/mwm/track.php?id=53
http://dino.drealm.info/peter/media/MakeFive.m3u

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