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Yeah, the velocity issue is key. My biggest quibble is in ending up with not triggered notes.

I have no issue with one string being louder than others. I set up an Ableton session that had each string going to a separate midi channel (preset 17) and its pretty clear where each string is hitting.

It definitely gets confused occasionally in interpreting what i'm doing and i get some random behavior. nothing too tragic as it gets what i need most done accomplished most of the time. It big weakness is doing single note runs.

when finger picking, i'll rest my hand on the bridge and that can cause triggers in the high strings.

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I haven't gotten into it much yet, but I did notice that at least some times you can gently touch a "string" that is sustaining with you fret hand and it will mute very similar to a real guitar.

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James
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torque138 wrote:
tapper mike wrote:You should take at least two days before posting a video. While you have the two days work on adjusting the string tension and the velocity settings.
I did adjust the string tension, as it was like picking a rock before.

Actually, if you know how to access the full range velocity, I'd like to know how. Medium velocity is okay, but I pick sometimes fairly softly.
not perfect sounds like , you are a bit disapointed ?,
whats your youtube name, i want to see your video
I'm not at all disappointed with it. In fact, Its a lot of fun. It does have this strange Note Off behavior though. If you have multiple notes ringing out and you take your finger off one of them, it sometimes sends a note off message and kills all the other notes as well. Also if you hit an open string, the opposite might happen, and you'll have to hit another note to get the open note to stop playing.

I'll post a link when I get the video uploaded. (probably be tomorrow at this point as I'm drowning in work).

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Hmmm, I thought that if notes were not triggering or were too hard to trigger then you should loosen the strings; not tighten them???

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annode wrote:Just for the record, I feel the triggering system is sub- adequate.
I own a Roland GI-20 system and was just hoping the YRG would be more accurate more often, but it's again a very touchy picking/triggering system.

Elantric spoke of it as very adequate with VSTi, and someone else spoke of it as just adequate, so I felt i'd throw in my opinion.

I may find it can be improved. I've only spent an hr or so playing a few different VSTi to test it. I did tighten each string tension.
Common pick to string dynamics will frequently not trigger a note because it's below the trigger sensitivity threshold of the system.

I'm not complaining, just writing my assessment of where it seems to fall short as a VSTi controller.

If your a clever tech, now's your chance to devise a better string trigger system. I'll be on it. :& )

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Thats good news -

Hopefully you have the weekend to play with it!

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Just spotted this one - (no its not me)

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Here's another:


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Just posted my video. There should be an HD version once its done processing.


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Yes, very slow playing going on in those videos.

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torque138 wrote:Just posted my video. There should be an HD version once its done processing.

Ha! Torque, I just realized I asked you a question on Youtube, not realizing it was you here. So what do you think of it?

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The velocity fall off on the middle two strings (D&G) are annoying as hell.

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With regards to the inconsistant triggering between strings, is it possible to stretch the strings individually to assess if they have the same "give"? It may be possible that they have shipped from the factory inconsistant tension accross the strings?

I'm only guessing here as I don't have mine yet (still no hope of seeing it in the UK any time soon).

Also, how are you guys adapting to learning new chord voicings? I'm assuming that full barre chords sound like crap with certain instruments such as Hammond Organs.

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tapper mike wrote:Yes, very slow playing going on in those videos.
Yep. For someone who doesn't have a midi-keyboard or controller, it's better then nothing. But for me who has two, I can easily play those lines and more on my keys.
Hopefully soon enough, i'll be able to use the midi-guitar to play faster and more complex patterns and lines, of the sort I can not play on keyboard because I don't have the keyboard skills.
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Play jazz chords also.... tap the chords.
It falls like button on my baby z simply due to the nature of the neck and string hieght .

Three qualifies. I hadn't woke up yet when I did this, didn't drink my first cup of coffee and It's been like 25 year since I've played stormy monday and I've never attempted it tapped before.

Those things being said.
First example- C7 spelled Bb-E-G on the right while the left works out a simple bassline.
Second example. Right works a bassline while left holds down the chord on top.
Third watch how I alternate (though I got the chords wrong) on a up to C#
and how I alternate bass and chord with the left hand only.

My babyz makes it all childs play I used to hate how the "strings" extended till I had to fight with the no action of they yrg


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tapper mike wrote:The velocity fall off on the middle two strings (D&G) are annoying as hell.
Just to mention Mike, velocity and string sensitivity are different animals.
The velocity is the range of say volume level we have from the most quiet sound to the loudest sound the guitar will make through the midi velocity data range.

The string sensitivity is the measure of how firmly we need to strike the string to get it to sound it's loudest as well as the most minimal force needed which will sound a note.

In the case of the YRG, the velocity is set to a range between 49- 100 and something, I forget, but it's a fixed range so far.
On the other hand, the analog triggering system sensitivity has two variables I know of so far...the string tension and an analog/digital threshold level set internally.

In theory, if you strike the string twice as forcefully as what's needed to create a velocity level of 127(loudest), it will go no louder then the velocity of 127.
The reverse should also be true. If the struck string is 1 half the force needed to create a velocity level of 49, it will still output a vel level of 49.

Sorry if it seems like i'm lecturing. No disrespect intended. :D
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