yrg thread

[annode]

Just dloaded midi ox for spin. Try it out tonight.

Thanks: I know many hosts will filter out SysEx before it gets to the track/fx bus by default (relegating it to a patch-transfer mode), so internal MIDI monitors might not tell the whole story depending on your system.

I know a lot of people here don't like external scripts, but if per-fret SysEx is indeed available, it could increase the potential for the YRG tenfold, as it did for the EZ-*G. The difference here being that the YRG seems much much better that the EZ right out of the box!

- m

I have Midi Ox reading the YRG driver.
Tell me how you'd like me to set it up so as to look for the data your curious about.

[tapper mike]

Taking off that cover plate and fiddling with the transducers and shims made a world of difference till I put the cover back on. Now it's off to stay.

Also annode Tremelo picking may not be a concern of yours it is a concern of many (including myself)

ElantricYou must have a hell of a wrist. I get roughly one to two misses per sixteenth note patterns I'm clicking it isn't. How are you doing it? I can't evh/django monkey paw my way thru it. I'm thinking about rummaging around for some teardrop picks.

[annode]

Just for the record, here is an example of the double triggering I get.
I am mostly picking very lightly .
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... r.demo.mp3
Set sensitivity to 5 with ver.0003 Control panel

[Markleford]

I have Midi Ox reading the YRG driver.
Tell me how you'd like me to set it up so as to look for the data your curious about.

Looking specifically for neck location on/off information on a per-fret basis. When in a non-tap mode, sliding your hand up and down the neck should spit out SysEx information for each string independently, if it's at all able to be addressed as a neutral grid for simultaneous zoning purposes.

The real trick to that end would be to hold down at the 7th fret and then tap frets lower than it like 3rd. The 3rd should still independently be able to turn on and off while the 7th is still sensed as "on".

Mind, if it still spits out the info in terms of something like NRPNs, I'd be equally pleased!

Thanks,
- m

[tapper mike]

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The real trick to that end would be to hold down at the 7th fret and then tap frets lower than it like 3rd. The 3rd should still independently be able to turn on and off while the 7th is still sensed as "on".


Thanks,
- m

Isn't it wiser to set midi to 16 or 17 so you can capture channel and note response?

[warza]

I don't have any problem with other guitar systems being discussed in here besides the YRG.  It's helpful, and does not muddy the waters.  The You Rock is a newcomer with a different approach, and part of seeing how good or bad it is, is with comparing it to other systems that are already established by users with experience.  It's one way to cut through the hype, and yes, there is a lot of hype out there, especially with You Rock marketing materials.

Facts are facts, and facts can only be helpful, unlike speculation and pointless negativity which seems to be kinda rife here.  

We need to compare this thing feature for feature in order to see how it holds up.  I don't think many of us can afford to buy every MIDI guitar system to see what works best, so sharing info this way can only help us.

I for one really appreciate all the time and effort that people have shared in here.

And yes, I agree it would be great to have a dedicated MIDI guitar thread on  KVR as it relates to using them with computer software.  It would be the perfect combination for information.  I come here for the more advanced level of input that usually shows up as opposed to the ad nauseum newbie questions like "where do I plug dis thing into my laptop sound card" that tends to saturate the Yahoo threads.

[lxm]

Just for the record, here is an example of the double triggering I get.
I am mostly picking very lightly .
http://home.comcast.net/~newdabranck/mu ... r.demo.mp3
Set sensitivity to 5 with ver.0003 Control panel

yikes.

thats brutal!!!!

[Markleford]

Isn't it wiser to set midi to 16 or 17 so you can capture channel and note response?

I've no clue on the midi modes for the YRG at this point: still trying to figure out if the MIDI implementation is amenable to being interpreted entirely on the software side.

- m

[Maruuk]

Yup, I'm getting the double-picking since I finger pick without picks so I have to have the sensitivity up at 9 or 10. It's glichy up in that zone, but you need to be there because below that level I get note dropouts (non-triggered notes).

[polaris20]

Well......

I'm done. I played my Ibanez RG with Graphtech Ghost saddles this afternoon for a couple hours, and while no, it doesn't track as well on the bottom E, the amount of expressiveness (is that a word?) and nuances are just so much better I can't bring myself to play the YRG, which just feels horribly cheap in comparison. Well, it is a cheap plastic guitar.

I guess I just prefer playing a real guitar, despite the limitations.

[warza]

Well......

I'm done. I played my Ibanez RG with Graphtech Ghost saddles this afternoon for a couple hours, and while no, it doesn't track as well on the bottom E, the amount of expressiveness (is that a word?) and nuances are just so much better I can't bring myself to play the YRG, which just feels horribly cheap in comparison. Well, it is a cheap plastic guitar.

I guess I just prefer playing a real guitar, despite the limitations.

Agreed. Although I haven't tried the YRG yet, that's the same decision I came to between my Roland system on my Strat and the Yamaha EZ. Although the EZ was technically faster on some things, I just couldn't get any performance from it. OK, it was horrible. Feel is everything, and there is nothing like playing your favorite guitar as a controller. I think that's prob why Roland has chosen to stay with the pitch to MIDI thing all these years. Limitations aside, there is nothing like playing guitar with real strings on your favorite guitar.

[Maruuk]

Yeah, I'll be all over that Fender Squire Strat IF it has midi. Wouldn't take much to send my YRG to Craig's List hell.

[warza]

Yeah, I'll be all over that Fender Squire Strat IF it has midi. Wouldn't take much to send my YRG to Craig's List hell.

But you can't swap it out with a Warmoth neck!

Kidding

[Maruuk]

Naw, and you raise a good point. That Squire Strat will be 1 5/8ths" at the nut (if not narrower), just like all those Mex and Chinee necks made for 10 year olds. Not true Fender American-standard adult 1 11/16ths". That's going to make for left hand clean fretting and finger picking hell.

I'm partial to 1.75" Warmoths myself. Going down into these kiddie widths is like playing a mandolin.

[polaris20]

Yeah, I'll be all over that Fender Squire Strat IF it has midi. Wouldn't take much to send my YRG to Craig's List hell.

Yeah, if it does, I'm open-minded about it, as well as Harvey Starr's cheaper unit when/if it ships, as I think he has more of a clue than Inspired does when it comes to this stuff.

When it comes down to it, I just don't feel like beating the snot out of a piece of plastic to create music. There's just a lot lost there.