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Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:47 am

I'd have to agree with ravasb - a limited full version is not the same as a fully functioning demo, no matter how you slice it. That said, even a proper demo would have some limitations.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:02 am

Just to clarify.

The nature of MU.LAB is not the track. It's the Part.

That MU.LAB Free only has four tracks is not relevant. It could have a single track. You are not limited to how many Parts you can place - overlapping - on that one track.

All tracks let you do is organise and arrange your Parts more easily, and provide an additional level at which you can do routing.

They are pretty inconsequential.

The VST Plugins constraint is more serious, though. But if all you're worried about is how well it performs with multiple instances... you don't need to test lots of different VSTs at the same time: you can do eight, then eight more... etc.

If you need more, €25 for MU.LAB XT is pretty cheap, too.

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:31 pm

You know what ? All my life I was thinking that only in Romania ranting, picking on irrelevant details and bitching is sort of national sport, or even a religion.
Now I see that spreaded a lot

@pljones
Just to clarify.
Your post was making sense, as for the others...

vinpizza · Post by **vinpizza** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:25 am

yes, I'm kinda surprise when Jo limit the track to 4 tracks only.
but it make me look at the modular area.

which reveal the true power of MULAB for me.

liquidsound · Post by **liquidsound** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:09 pm

ravasb wrote:I understand that it is free, and that is very generous of the dev. However, I would like to see how it performs with lots of tracks and VST and maybe with something rewired into it. I use renoise a lot and rewire it into my main DAW. I don't purchase anything without taking it for a full spin.

Bonteburg wrote:I'd have to agree with ravasb - a limited full version is not the same as a fully functioning demo, no matter how you slice it. That said, even a proper demo would have some limitations.

I would like to see exactly where the limitation is occurring....
By my calculation if you run up against 33 VST at once than maybe... and that's what you need to test a DAW? Give me a brake!

(I forgot: UNLIMITED PARTS to target everywhere....)

ravasb · Post by **ravasb** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:54 pm

sorohanro wrote:You know what ? All my life I was thinking that only in Romania ranting, picking on irrelevant details and bitching is sort of national sport, or even a religion.
Now I see that spreaded a lot

@pljones
Just to clarify.
Your post was making sense, as for the others...

I don't think anyone was ranting or bitching. What is irrelevant to one person might matter to another. I acknowledged the generosity of the dev and made a polite request for a different version of the demo. I thought giving input was part of the reason one has a forum in the first place.

Bonteburg · Post by **Bonteburg** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:22 pm

Failed to detect ranting and/or bitching too, but a few neat jabs in the direction of ravasb, to which he came back as polite and factual as before.

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:36 pm

Sorry if my previous post sounded "edgy".
I see the current going to "but why the free Coca-Cola is not cold enough ?" but I think then is just in my head.
I wonder, how the limitation affect your testing ?

janamdo · Post by **janamdo** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:07 pm

sorohanro wrote:Sorry if my previous post sounded "edgy".
I see the current going to "but why the free Coca-Cola is not cold enough ?" but I think then is just in my head.
I wonder, how the limitation affect your testing ?

Listen this is a concern for Mutools and you can better concentrate on making music

sorohanro · Post by **sorohanro** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:12 pm

janamdo wrote:you can better concentrate on making music

Good one.
Actually I'm doing something more related to Mu.Lab, the next choir patch

More info to come in the appropriate thread

ravasb · Post by **ravasb** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:18 pm

Bonteburg wrote:Failed to detect ranting and/or bitching too, but a few neat jabs in the direction of ravasb, to which he came back as polite and factual as before.

Much thanks.

ravasb · Post by **ravasb** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:27 pm

sorohanro wrote:Sorry if my previous post sounded "edgy".
I see the current going to "but why the free Coca-Cola is not cold enough ?" but I think then is just in my head.
I wonder, how the limitation affect your testing ?

I understand there are workarounds that help with the track limitations, but what I really want to see in a DAW is whether it will adjust to my workflow, and not the other way around. I have a particular way of working that has made me pretty happy, and I just want to see that I can recreate the same workflow or even better, create a faster and more efficient one. Increased track numbers, access to VSTs and rewire are not just issues of quantity, but quality as well in a large project.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:48 pm

So what are your concrete questions which you can't check/try out with MU.LAB FREE?

ravasb · Post by **ravasb** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:58 pm

mutools wrote:So what are your concrete questions which you can't check/try out with MU.LAB FREE?

All my concerns are listed in the posting right above yours. I just must be really off base. The problem seems to be mine. Thank you for your consideration.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:02 pm

I rechecked your posts in this topic, but can't find your concrete questions.
Sorry if i'm missing something. If i know what you're looking for, maybe i can help.

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