A little, but for me annoying thing in MU.LAB:
Example: I load an instrument in rack 1 and play it with my mdi keyboard...
The rack contains as well an send to rack 4 which hosts an delay effect...
As soon as I click on the plugin slot of the delay plugin to open it's editor, because I want to make some changes while playing my instrument live, the midi focus changes to the delay plugin (where I really don't need it in that moment) and I have to set the focus back to my instrument...
This happens to me so often...can you please tune the midi focus, that you have e.g. to doubleclick a rack to set the midi focus to it???
For tracks, it's ok with a single click, but please not for racks...
BTW, what is the yellow ceiling around the tracks for, while hoovering the mouse over??? Is it only a visual thing or does this have any meaning???
Trancit
Midi Input focus...
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
You can "fix" the focus for each MIDI Input Channel by using Edit->Edit MIDI Input Focuses.
When set to "Focus", the target is the current MIDI Focus shown in the panel at the top.
To set MIDI Focus to a Rack, you have to click the right part of the Rack - the header: it will turn green when targeted.
The selection highlight says what the keyboard focus is on (as opposed to MIDI Focus).
(Apologies to Jo if I've not got my terminology right!)
When set to "Focus", the target is the current MIDI Focus shown in the panel at the top.
To set MIDI Focus to a Rack, you have to click the right part of the Rack - the header: it will turn green when targeted.
The selection highlight says what the keyboard focus is on (as opposed to MIDI Focus).
(Apologies to Jo if I've not got my terminology right!)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
But in this way, it is complete fixed...
I would like to see this more flexible, I want to have the focus for this moment fixed to that rack, but not "forever"
But thanks for the hint, this option I didn't know before...
Trancit
I would like to see this more flexible, I want to have the focus for this moment fixed to that rack, but not "forever"
But thanks for the hint, this option I didn't know before...
Trancit
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
I don't get you? Either use the fixed focus, or use click to focus. Where's the problem?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Sorry, I try again to explain, what I meant:
I don't want a really fixed focus, I just don't want MU.LAB to change the focus by a single click on another rack...
Because I use the racks as "ordinary" mixer channels, I put my send effects on them as well.
Example: rack 1-15 contain my instruments, insert effects and audio
rack 16 contains my main reverb
rack 17 my first delay
rack 18 my second delay
Now I set the midi focus on e.g. rack 1 and play a synth sound live...
Rack 1 sends as well to my first delay
While playing live, I want to change a parameter in the delay plugin, which is hosted by rack 17...and I want to change it, while playing the synthsound to hear, what's going on.
If I now click on the rack 17 to open the GUI of the plugin, MU.LAB autosets the midi focus on rack 17...and that's, what I personally find a little bit annoying, because my synth sound I am playing, stops playing and after opening the delay GUI, I have to set the focus again on rack 1...
If e.g. MU.LAB would change the midi focus not with a single click on the rack, but with a double click, one could open the GUI's of plugins hosted by other racks, without loosing the midi focus on the desired rack...
Is this more understandable???
Trancit
I don't want a really fixed focus, I just don't want MU.LAB to change the focus by a single click on another rack...
Because I use the racks as "ordinary" mixer channels, I put my send effects on them as well.
Example: rack 1-15 contain my instruments, insert effects and audio
rack 16 contains my main reverb
rack 17 my first delay
rack 18 my second delay
Now I set the midi focus on e.g. rack 1 and play a synth sound live...
Rack 1 sends as well to my first delay
While playing live, I want to change a parameter in the delay plugin, which is hosted by rack 17...and I want to change it, while playing the synthsound to hear, what's going on.
If I now click on the rack 17 to open the GUI of the plugin, MU.LAB autosets the midi focus on rack 17...and that's, what I personally find a little bit annoying, because my synth sound I am playing, stops playing and after opening the delay GUI, I have to set the focus again on rack 1...
If e.g. MU.LAB would change the midi focus not with a single click on the rack, but with a double click, one could open the GUI's of plugins hosted by other racks, without loosing the midi focus on the desired rack...
Is this more understandable???
Trancit
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Ah... So you want both fixed and moveable MIDI focus... But fixed focus under control through the overall UI, rather than having to delve into Edit->Edit... Mmm, nice idea! 
Pin-able focus.
In the example you give, though, you could use Edit->Edit MIDI Focuses to keep the synth channel pinned to Rack 1, of course.
Pin-able focus.In the example you give, though, you could use Edit->Edit MIDI Focuses to keep the synth channel pinned to Rack 1, of course.
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- KVRAF
- 5573 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth
Focus would be more practical if would be restricted to Tracks/Parts only in a preference choice.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
But this situation last perhaps 30 seconds...so would be much work with the Edit Midi Focus setup thingy...pljones wrote:Ah... So you want both fixed and moveable MIDI focus... But fixed focus under control through the overall UI, rather than having to delve into Edit->Edit... Mmm, nice idea!
In the example you give, though, you could use Edit->Edit MIDI Focuses to keep the synth channel pinned to Rack 1, of course.
Here perhaps another explanation:
I want to be able to open any plugin GUI hosted on other racks without loosing midi focus on the desired rack for a short amount of time (means, without fixing midi focus)...
Is this so unusual???
Trancit
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
No, it's nice to be able to change the focus at the racks directly, but not without being able to open GUIs in the rack without changing the focus to this rack.liquidsound wrote:Focus would be more practical if would be restricted to Tracks/Parts only in a preference choice.
As I said, simple click on a rack "opens" it to access the hosted plugins...doubleclick to set focus on...
With the tracks and parts could be the same like before...
Trancit
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Yes, I think the only thing is an additional stickiness, so you can quickly "pin" the focus while you're doing something then quickly "unpin" it. I'm not sure double-click works (that means "open"). I think either it needs a new UI button on every MIDI target (messy messy messy) or it needs a new mouse gesture to toggle the "hidden" state (maybe "click-and-hold"?). I think it should "follow" the last place you did it, so pinning one target implicitly unpinned the previous one.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Yeah, you are right...double click opens the rack, I forgot...pljones wrote:Yes, I think the only thing is an additional stickiness, so you can quickly "pin" the focus while you're doing something then quickly "unpin" it. I'm not sure double-click works (that means "open"). I think either it needs a new UI button on every MIDI target (messy messy messy) or it needs a new mouse gesture to toggle the "hidden" state (maybe "click-and-hold"?). I think it should "follow" the last place you did it, so pinning one target implicitly unpinned the previous one.
I think, CRTL click should work fine..
Trancit
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Would be better, I think, if it were a single-handed gesture -- otherwise you can't keep playing notes with one hand whilst mousing with the other. Hmm. Maybe a "pin" up on the Target panel? That would also give visual feedback of what was going on.
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- KVRian
- 855 posts since 3 Mar, 2009
Hi Trancit,
I have to say that I am very happy with the current focusing behaviour.
And its working here exactly as you want it!
The only thing might be that when Rack 1 is focused to play the instrument in the rack live, I click the arrow on the right of the Delay slot in the effect rack. When the Delay opens, I still can play the instrument and I can change delay parameters without loosing the focus on the instrument.
If I use the double click on the Delay slot, focus changes as you explain.
Using a single click on the arrow might help with you problem.
Andreas
I have to say that I am very happy with the current focusing behaviour.
And its working here exactly as you want it!
The only thing might be that when Rack 1 is focused to play the instrument in the rack live, I click the arrow on the right of the Delay slot in the effect rack. When the Delay opens, I still can play the instrument and I can change delay parameters without loosing the focus on the instrument.
If I use the double click on the Delay slot, focus changes as you explain.
Using a single click on the arrow might help with you problem.
Andreas
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- KVRAF
- 7412 posts since 8 Feb, 2003 from London, UK
Andreas - that almost sounds like a bug, not a feature 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5067 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
What you describe only works, if the "second" rack is already unfolded, what usually is not the case.AndreasD wrote:Hi Trancit,
I have to say that I am very happy with the current focusing behaviour.
And its working here exactly as you want it!
The only thing might be that when Rack 1 is focused to play the instrument in the rack live, I click the arrow on the right of the Delay slot in the effect rack. When the Delay opens, I still can play the instrument and I can change delay parameters without loosing the focus on the instrument.
If I use the double click on the Delay slot, focus changes as you explain.
Using a single click on the arrow might help with you problem.
Andreas
Trancit