Eminent 310 vst?

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What non-sample based vst is closest to the sound of the Eminent 310? I am thinking of those classic Jarre swirls.

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I guess there are many sample based ones so why not use them?

The only dedicated strings synthesizer (without samples) i currently own is Amber from DCAM Synth Squad which is quite nice.

With a little programming you could do such sounds with quite many synths which have built-in FX i guess. The current version 2.5 alpha of KV331 Audio Synthmaster has an built in ensemble effect BTW.

Some links for possible vsts:
http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=62&tab=183
http://vintage-strings-mkii.musicrow.qarchive.org/
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1331.html

Sample based:
http://www.hollowsun.com/HS2/products/strings/index.htm
http://www.sonicprojects.ch/stringer/description.html
http://www.gforcesoftware.com/ins_vsm.php
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bergen wrote:What non-sample based vst is closest to the sound of the Eminent 310? I am thinking of those classic Jarre swirls.
Bergen have you tried this: http://www.loomer.co.uk/string.htm

Gives you an Eminent 310 sound, plus things that go way beyond what other string machines are capable of.
To get the "swirl" you need to pass a string sound through a phaser, Jarre used a Small Stone.

Try this, it's brand new and is the best Small Stone emulator on the market: http://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.html
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Big Tick cheese machine might do the job as well :

http://www.apulsoft.ch/freeports/


not modelled acurrately by the instrument you pointed at...but free though
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Krakatau wrote:Big Tick cheese machine might do the job as well :

http://www.apulsoft.ch/freeports/
There's only 3 software string synths that could do the job properly, and cheeze machine is not even in the same ballpark. :wink:
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Don't you like cheeze ?

:D

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If you have Reaktor, there is a very nice emulation in the user library (eminent-v 310).
If you don't, why not? :)

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HunterKiller wrote:
bergen wrote:What non-sample based vst is closest to the sound of the Eminent 310? I am thinking of those classic Jarre swirls.
Bergen have you tried this: http://www.loomer.co.uk/string.htm

Gives you an Eminent 310 sound, plus things that go way beyond what other string machines are capable of.
To get the "swirl" you need to pass a string sound through a phaser, Jarre used a Small Stone.

Try this, it's brand new and is the best Small Stone emulator on the market: http://www.artsacoustic.com/artsacoustic_bigrock.html
indeed, the loomer stringmachine is able to bring you closest possible to the eminent strings up to now. make sure you filter the osc's down to 6khz, before feeding a phaser. don't use the inbuildt one (also not the delay), it's not doing it, use the bigrock by artsacoustic, it sounds exactly like the smallstone mk2 which jarre used, as it's an accurate model of it, just as hunterkiller correctly suggested. also be sure you use a mono delay on a send, around 320-350ms, and pan the original strinmachine to one side to a healthy ammount, and the delay to the other, make de delay close as loud as the stringmachine itself. that should get you there.

samplebased strinmachines cannot, for technical reasons, ever do it, as the bbd chorus is fed with the summary of the divided down osc's, and samples, as they have the chorus embedded within every note, would multiply the chorus with every note, which just sounds not like a strinmachine anymore then. furthermore with samples, every note restarts the embedded chorus, which would set every note out of phase.
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+1 on Reaktor's ensemble - it is topnotch!

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Top 3 string synths at the moment are (in no particular order):

Loomer String
AlienMachine's Eminent V
WOK Cromina

Plenty of goodness to get from all 3.
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brok landers wrote:which would set every note out of phase.
Yeah, on VSM I get that a lot, it phases like there's no tomorrow.
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The Eminent 310 (through the Small Stone phaser) was the organ who made the signature of all the album Oxygene from Jean-Michel Jarre in 1976, so I unearth the thread to highly suggest you to see this other excellent thread where the subject has been very deeply discussed :

Jean michel Jarre VST

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