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Perimeter Sound wrote:
Urs wrote:Hmmm, what's wrong with the value snap function of the MSEGs? Right-click MSEG editor and choose

I tried to add something visual to it (as in: white/black bars), but it looked crap so I didn't bother anymore. I might however be able to display the current value in the parameter display, like I did with the ModMapper and stuff.

Later,

;) Urs
Value Snap doesn't seem to do anything here. Unit Snap seems to have to do with the side to side/time length values, but Value Snap does not appear to do anything when I change it :?
Maybe a bug on your setup. It works for me. Lets me shift the node up and down over 12, 24 steps, etc.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:Well I don't use Kore 2 and I didn't plan to do so. But maybe it's worth looking into in order to have an All-in-one-Software-Monster...
Surprised you haven't really - it would seem to fit well with your approach. It's a perfect way to construct "meta instruments" comprising multiple plugin components but functioning as one instrument (rather than as a plugin chain) with a common set of controls and morphable variations.

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AL321 wrote:
Perimeter Sound wrote:
Urs wrote:Hmmm, what's wrong with the value snap function of the MSEGs? Right-click MSEG editor and choose

I tried to add something visual to it (as in: white/black bars), but it looked crap so I didn't bother anymore. I might however be able to display the current value in the parameter display, like I did with the ModMapper and stuff.

Later,

;) Urs
Value Snap doesn't seem to do anything here. Unit Snap seems to have to do with the side to side/time length values, but Value Snap does not appear to do anything when I change it :?
Maybe a bug on your setup. It works for me. Lets me shift the node up and down over 12, 24 steps, etc.
It must be something, cause that just doesn't work for me. Any ideas what might be causing it to not work Urs, or anyone else ? It seems like an odd thing for an accidental midi-learn problem to be doing.
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Another one for the wishlist unless I'm missing something:
The possibility to switch LFOs to unipolar. They are only bipolar now meaning one has to use a MSEG if you only want to modulate to one side and a MSEG is by far not as versatile as a LFO as you can't modulate it's rate/speed respectively loop point.
Which calls for another wish: The possibility to modulate/move MSEG Breakpoints in value and position with a Midi Controller while the MSEG is running.

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Sampleconstruct wrote: ...as you can't modulate it's rate/speed respectively loop point.
I'm not sure I'm following you here - do you mean applying a modulation to the rate knobs for attack, loop, release in the MSEG editing pane?

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xh3rv wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote: ...as you can't modulate it's rate/speed respectively loop point.
I'm not sure I'm following you here - do you mean applying a modulation to the rate knobs for attack, loop, release in the MSEG editing pane?
No, I mean modulating a single breakpoint - you know you can modulate single Arpeggiator steps in the Mod Matrix, something like that. Or like modulating single Breakpoints in Absynth where you can assign each Breakpoint to a Macro or even velocity either in Amplitude or Time.
This can be usefule e.g. when programmming a MSEG driven melodic sequence which uses minor thirds. So I could assign all minor third steps to a Modulator to make them major thirds. Or when programming a groove where I want to shift certain accents by a 16th note.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:Another one for the wishlist unless I'm missing something:
The possibility to switch LFOs to unipolar. They are only bipolar now meaning one has to use a MSEG if you only want to modulate to one side and a MSEG is by far not as versatile as a LFO as you can't modulate it's rate/speed respectively loop point.
Which calls for another wish: The possibility to modulate/move MSEG Breakpoints in value and position with a Midi Controller while the MSEG is running.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding your description here.
To get a unipolar lfo, just switch the lfo to user mode, and set your modulations to one side, with however many steps you want, just as you can do with the mod mappers.
You can also modulate an mseg's rate.
For an example of this you can download this ZPC12 presets.
Choose the "Reckless" preset. Hit a note and look at the mseg's.
They are having their rates modulated with another lfo set to the loop rate.
Here's the ZPC12 zip
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/presets/z2/ZPC-12.zip

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mcnoone wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:Another one for the wishlist unless I'm missing something:
The possibility to switch LFOs to unipolar. They are only bipolar now meaning one has to use a MSEG if you only want to modulate to one side and a MSEG is by far not as versatile as a LFO as you can't modulate it's rate/speed respectively loop point.
Which calls for another wish: The possibility to modulate/move MSEG Breakpoints in value and position with a Midi Controller while the MSEG is running.
I hope I'm not misunderstanding your description here.
To get a unipolar lfo, just switch the lfo to user mode, and set your modulations to one side, with however many steps you want, just as you can do with the mod mappers.
You can also modulate an mseg's rate.
For an example of this you can download this ZPC12 presets.
Choose the "Reckless" preset. Hit a note and look at the mseg's.
They are having their rates modulated with another lfo set to the loop rate.
Here's the ZPC12 zip
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/presets/z2/ZPC-12.zip
Thank's for that, I did use the Mod Mappers and LFO User mode in my current Bank quite extensively but that's not quite the same. In the Mod Mapper I would have to draw a symmetrical unipolar wave with the mouse and wouldn't even be able to save that drawn wave and LFO User Mode (which I really like) only allows for squareshaped steps. I'll check your preset - thank's again.

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Sampleconstruct wrote:...and LFO User Mode (which I really like) only allows for squareshaped steps.
The lfo user mode, has 2 wave modes. Look to the right of lfo in user mode.
Then click on "step" under where it says Wave Mode. You'll see a choice for "lines", also.

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mcnoone wrote:
Sampleconstruct wrote:...and LFO User Mode (which I really like) only allows for squareshaped steps.
The lfo user mode, has 2 wave modes. Look to the right of lfo in user mode.
Then click on "step" under where it says Wave Mode. You'll see a choice for "lines", also.
Superb, thank you!

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It occurred to me there might be a fairly simple and elegant solution for turning an LFO unipolar here using one MMap, and it sort of works ...

An MMap with a ramp shape (e.g. from 0 to 100, so no negative values) on 'smooth' mode, with modulator of some LFO. Because it's interpolating, and because the trigonometry is already calculated into the LFO output, it will simply map the range of the LFO to the range of the MMap's ramp. It's fairly easy to set an MMap up like this with the 'straighten' command in the MMap's right-click menu.

The hitch: I think there's something with the interpolation sampling for this at the first and last bar values in the MMap that, for this purpose, is a little off. I basically clips the LFO a bit. This can be solved by reducing the amplitude of the LFO by one-half and tweaking the MMap to account for some offset and the smaller modulation range.

Some magic numbers for the MMap were: 8 steps {0, 0, 0, 25, 50, 75, 100, 100}. There might be something cleaner but I think I'll quit here.

Don't know if this is completely useful but maybe interesting :hihi:

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Clever, I'll try around with that idea...

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Donner wrote: A new oscillator that can do some kind of physical modelling (PMO?). I know that the comb filter can do a lot, so maybe that would be a waste.
I wrote that wish some time ago. I have experimented with the comb filter since then and now I can withdraw that wish of mine; the comb filter is excellent when it comes to ... hmmm ... modelling physical modelling.

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