Considering buying a Receptor ( Rev C vs Receptor 2 )

[thumky]

Hello,
Thanks to all, i've learned alot monitoring this forum. I'm debating a used Rev C vs a new Receptor 2. Cost is a big concern. But at the same time I want to make sure i have the right horsepower to get the job done. I don't want to deal with clicks 'n pops 'n crashes on stage or in rehearsal! Any comments / real life experience would be much appreciated.

My requirements:

I need to run Ivory 1.7, Scarbee A-200 ( two instances unless i can easily shift octaves during a song ), Scarbee Pre-Bass, TimeWARP 2600 and some other synth to replace Arturia . Most are for different songs ( but not all ). Could i hold all this in memory? If not, is it practical to quickly load stuff between songs?

I need a 64 sample buffer. I read on one post that the Receptor may add extra buffer samples. Not sure if this true or just speculation. Can i expect the latency of 64 samples/41.1 on my Mac Pro Digi003 to be similar to 64 samples/44.1 on the Receptor?

Thanks again everyone, i know my questions are very specific. Its just alot of money for me!
-matt

[nathankingcole]

If you are going to purchase a Receptor, pull the funds together for Receptor 2 Pro. I am still paying mine off, but it has been worth the extra investment.I use all 16 mixer channels full with Kotakt, Akoustik Piano, and other power hungry software at a 64 sample buffer.

[thumky]

Thanks for the advice! Any other experiences out there?

[johnrule]

They (Muse) took away the capability to tweak the registry in the Receptor 2 for an unsupported install, so you have a better chance of success with the Receptor 1. You can upgrade the processor and hard drive (which I have done) to make it perform adequately, but the communication speed (for memory, disk, etc.) is relatively slow. You need to replace the motherboard and memory to improve that...

Rather than ask the obvious question of "why don't you just get a laptop?", I will ask 'do you know exactly what you are getting into?'. What is the advantage of a Receptor in your mind?

JR

[thumky]

Well i like the idea of hitting the power button and having just everything work. I'm a software developer so i'm not afraid of tweaking a laptop etc but i don't want the feeling of being at work when i'm supposed to be playing music. I hate that.

The other reason is cost. By the time i buy a MBP or a ADK plus a nice audio interface i'm easily over $2K.

btw, I don't understand how the heck Muse can block registry / ssh access if we have root privileges. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a workaround. Anyway for my needs i don't think i need unsupported installs. ( maybe i'm being naive? ). I'll miss CS80V alot. But IMO Arturia products are such insane resource hogs. I finally gave up on JupiterV2. After a few crashes its no longer worth it to me. ( Its a little too crisp and buzzy anyway, doesn't have the balls of my old Juno 60 )

I get your point. It must be frustrating not having full control of your gear. As an Open Source advocate i'm furrowing my brow at Muse. If i had more time and energy i'd help out with an Open Source alternative. But the idea of just hitting a button during rehearsal without worrying about anything is very appealing to me.

-matt
MacPro Nehalem 2.66 Quad, Mac OS X 10.5.8

They (Muse) took away the capability to tweak the registry in the Receptor 2 for an unsupported install, so you have a better chance of success with the Receptor 1. You can upgrade the processor and hard drive (which I have done) to make it perform adequately, but the communication speed (for memory, disk, etc.) is relatively slow. You need to replace the motherboard and memory to improve that...

Rather than ask the obvious question of "why don't you just get a laptop?", I will ask 'do you know exactly what you are getting into?'. What is the advantage of a Receptor in your mind?

JR

[johnrule]

btw, I don't understand how the heck Muse can block registry / ssh access if we have root privileges. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a workaround. Anyway for my needs i don't think i need unsupported installs.

I see...you've got it all figured out then.

Tell you what...why don't you buy two Receptors? That way the effect will be twice as satisfying.

Good luck.

JR

[thumky]

btw, I don't understand how the heck Muse can block registry / ssh access if we have root privileges. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a workaround. Anyway for my needs i don't think i need unsupported installs.

I see...you've got it all figured out then.

Tell you what...why don't you buy two Receptors? That way the effect will be twice as satisfying.

Good luck.

JR

okay thats weird. anyone else?

[gregh1]

btw, I don't understand how the heck Muse can block registry / ssh access if we have root privileges. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find a workaround.

I think that there's a process always running that looks for the typical "hack" access methods, and stops them from happening. So, I'm not sure if you can even get root privilege. That's just a guess... I have not tried it.

[gary@museresearch]

thumky,

If it makes your decision any easier, a Rev C will not run Ivory 1.7. The latest it will run is 1.6

Thanks,

Gary
Muse Tech Support