aMusing Replacer update

[johnrule]

Very nice, thank you JR!

You're welcome!

I did it for me too.

1)If you can't use the Receptor's soundcard (which Muse claims to be hi-quality (converters etc.), you should get another good soundcard to get the same quality that Receptor has?

You can find the same (if not better) quality for comparably little money today. In my Receptor (which I purchased in August of 2008) the audio card is stamped with the year "2003", which is a long time ago. Hardware has changed quite a bit, and quality converters are not the issue they used to be.

2)What about the audio outputs in receptor, can you connect the "new" interface to them, or should they be replaced?

There are no connectors on the mobo...Muse must have had it manufactured that way. I imagine it would have posed a problem with the back panel anyway.

Unless Muse releases their internal top secret Windows drivers (which may or may not exist) you must find a replacement. Or maybe another engineer out there would like to spend the time writing the low level drivers for us?

Can I ask what firewire soundcard you are using JR? And have you noticed any change in the quality of the sound?

I'm actually on my other PC now, but I did a quick search on Google and found this $19 card:

low profile firewire

It has a connector that comes out of the top too, so you won't have to poke a hole in the back of the Receptor case...mine works as well as any firewire PCI card would on a typical windows machine.

JR

[johnrule]

very nice but you aplication doesn't looks like a open source project right?

You get all of the source code for that project, if that is what you are interested in. The IDE itself that hosts the project file was written in Java, so there is that potential to open source the whole thing. Right now, I have the IDE (called the Run Time Editor) as a perpetual demo...you download a new build once a month to keep it going.

I spent a considerable amount of time on this project, and in developing the software itself...I can't give it out for free right now. You will be allowed to use it for free, with enough constraints to encourage you to cough up a few bucks for my efforts!

JR

[nl3]

Here is a quick video I put together that should answer some of your questions:



Enjoy!

JR

Amazing!
I think i could be interested in having it to work with.
Are you selling this system or?

[johnrule]

Amazing!
I think i could be interested in having it to work with.
Are you selling this system or?

Yes...I would like to get something in return.

But in the mean time, you are welcome to check it out:

RTE3 demo with aMusing Replacer project

The RTE3 is the software that hosts the 'aMusing Replacer' project (in the "Examples" folder). You need an Internet connection when it first starts up to enable the "perpetual demo" mode (the software just pings the server), and then you have full capabilities. This is for the Windows version...if you are interested in the Linux version, please send me a PM.

Have fun!

JR

[Throbert]

If I were to switch out to a 64 bit mobo would I be able to run 64 bit windows?
will there now be feedback from the mixer and the plugs?
This is great, I'm having a hard time keeping myself from laughing my ass off. Thank you so much this is such a big deal to me, great I love it.

[johnrule]

If I were to switch out to a 64 bit mobo would I be able to run 64 bit windows?
will there now be feedback from the mixer and the plugs?

I believe Plogue has a 64 bit version of Bidule to experiment with right now, and my software was written in Java, so it is 64 bit capable...but it is just the control part. I don't think we need 64 bit control!

The 'Volume' dial currently controls the Main Mixer volume in Bidule, and it can be configured to control anything...even the OS volume. I have the hooks for the incoming OSC commands (see the "Data Monitor' in the software), but it isn't doing much right now. You can certainly do something yourself! I will add features like that in the future.

This is great, I'm having a hard time keeping myself from laughing my ass off. Thank you so much this is such a big deal to me, great I love it.

I am glad you found it "aMusing"

It should be a nice enhancement for Receptor owners who need more from their systems, and are willing to configure a bit (or a lot!).

JR

[johnrule]

I have a little more information about the onboard audio...

Once you enable the AC97 support in the bios, you can get Windows to install the proper drivers. I actually had a driver installed for the PCI audio card called "Envy24" (for the VIA chipset), but the card is too custom to utilize the default driver...I am still looking into that.

You do have a header on the motherboard that will allow you to add the front panel connector (which you can put on the back/side/whatever obviously), and there is an optical output (requiring the cable and connection of course).

The ADAT output may actually work with the Envy24 driver...I am going to do a bit more testing on that too.

So, there are options for simply utilizing what you have, and not spending too much on a new mobo, audio card, etc. I am hoping it can still be a software update only.

Note: If you are going to experiment with this by going back and forth between your Receptor hard drive and a Windows drive, you need to put things back in the bios, and make sure you have no other USB devices plugged in (especially a USB audio interface for example).

In regards to the above software download, you can run this on a regular Windows machine just to check it out. You don't need to install it on your Receptor just to see it work.

JR

[vihreamies]

Yes I hope you wouldn't have to make big investments to make Receptor better, because it's so expensive piece of gear anyway.

But what JR has been doing really makes us Receptor owners smile, doesn't it. Many of us are so bored to wait and hope for receptorized plugins and so on. This brings hope

Well, don't get me wrong, I still find Receptor to be a great instrument, it's the only way at the moment to have decent piano sound, excellent Rhodes/Wurlitzer + other favorite plug-ins to stage.

-Vm

[nl3]

Yes I hope you wouldn't have to make big investments to make Receptor better, because it's so expensive piece of gear anyway.

But what JR has been doing really makes us Receptor owners smile, doesn't it. Many of us are so bored to wait and hope for receptorized plugins and so on. This brings hope

Well, don't get me wrong, I still find Receptor to be a great instrument, it's the only way at the moment to have decent piano sound, excellent Rhodes/Wurlitzer + other favorite plug-ins to stage.

-Vm

i agree with you, but we have to take in mind that the Receptor 1 cpu Athlon 2500+ is probably less efficient on a windows xp environment than on the Muse Os, so i think the best solution could be the best mobo with the best cpu and the best ssd drive fitting on the Receptor case/housing, with the preferred sound card, the best scaled down windows xp installation and the best plugins running on it.
Everything controlled by the original owned Receptor front panel joined with the JR controller solution.
Total amount/bid= 500/800 euros?
nl3

[vihreamies]

nl3,

Are you sure Muse OS is better than Windows at the current hardware? As far as I know (and that ain't much ) Receptor basically has Linux that runs Windows emulator? And that, if something, sounds like a bad performance. Straighten me up if somebody knows better!

-Vm

[nl3]

nl3,

Are you sure Muse OS is better than Windows at the current hardware? As far as I know (and that ain't much ) Receptor basically has Linux that runs Windows emulator? And that, if something, sounds like a bad performance. Straighten me up if somebody knows better!

-Vm

i'm going to make a try tomorrow, by replacing the original Muse hard drive with a windowed up one, so we'll have the right answer.
Anyway i suppose the performance could be the same, just improving the compatibility a while.
It could be worth the change for a complete mobo/cpu hardware upgrade.
nl3

[nathankingcole]

I really hope the Muse forum caretakers are reading this thread and taking it seriously. I run a small business, and if I saw this kind of pro-active move away from needing my services being done by my customers, I would make a very strong effort to communicate my plans for improving my customer service, and clearly state long term growth and support for existing product plans!

[Meo]

Take Apple for example, they don't like people to crack their OS (iphone), so they say "officially", or to run apps that it wasn't made for.

But in essence, this is the reason why it's so popular.

I wish the receptor was designed the same way. Allowing people to install any plugs they want. The only thing Muse would have to do, is issue OS patch to keep with changes and updates from MS in order to run new plugs.

It would sell like hotcakes. That's my 2 cents.

[johnrule]

Take Apple for example, they don't like people to crack their OS (iphone), so they say "officially", or to run apps that it wasn't made for.

I didn't "crack their OS"...I don't find it worth cracking.

What I did was utilize the very expensive hardware I paid for in a new way. I am trying to get more value out of my Receptor, that's all.

JR

[Meo]

Take Apple for example, they don't like people to crack their OS (iphone), so they say "officially", or to run apps that it wasn't made for.

I didn't "crack their OS"...I don't find it worth cracking.

What I did was utilize the very expensive hardware I paid for in a new way. I am trying to get more value out of my Receptor, that's all.

JR

I wasn't suggesting that you did John. I know better...

I was merely outlining the fact that open systems tend to be more popular.

That's all!