... I've never had anything but issues and glitches with sfz+... am I the only one? Surely not?Nahkranoth wrote:Even that "godfather" sometimes fails miserably on some soundfonts like molecula.sf2 (I guess that's how it is called) or was it analog.sf2?crisis-at-music wrote:What's about the question of SF2 parameter interpretation? Some older SF2 players made with SynthEdit sound very different compared to the "godfather of players" SFZ/SFZ+. How does Phenome compare?
PHENOME VSTi | BEST FREE SF2 PLAYER | v1.70 released!
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- KVRAF
- 2930 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand
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- KVRist
- 211 posts since 28 Dec, 2003 from Gravel Switch, Kentucky
I have been noticing that some SF2 files (some of the Phenome factory set of SF2s and some Digital Sound Factory free SF2 presets) that are obviously stereo (volumes of L and right differ in real time) when loaded into sfz appear to be mono (no difference in volume between L and R) when loaded into Phenome. My host is energyXT 1.4. Can anyone else confirm this?
Greg Williams
Greg Williams
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
I noticed this too with some soundfonts, but this is something where i dont have any idea, why this is. I have to investigate heregwill wrote:I have been noticing that some SF2 files (some of the Phenome factory set of SF2s and some Digital Sound Factory free SF2 presets) that are obviously stereo (volumes of L and right differ in real time) when loaded into sfz appear to be mono (no difference in volume between L and R) when loaded into Phenome. My host is energyXT 1.4. Can anyone else confirm this?
Greg Williams
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
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- KVRAF
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- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
Some more comments?? Does Phenome run well??
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- KVRian
- 671 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Germany
No, SFZ+ works perfect ... on single-core pc's. The glitches appear on multi-core systems. Seems that cakewalk has no interest in fixing this bug, since it's freeware. Hopefully Phenome becomes a good alternative ... I'll check it out this evening.GeorgeZ wrote:... I've never had anything but issues and glitches with sfz+... am I the only one? Surely not?Nahkranoth wrote:Even that "godfather" sometimes fails miserably on some soundfonts like molecula.sf2 (I guess that's how it is called) or was it analog.sf2?crisis-at-music wrote:What's about the question of SF2 parameter interpretation? Some older SF2 players made with SynthEdit sound very different compared to the "godfather of players" SFZ/SFZ+. How does Phenome compare?
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- KVRAF
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- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
Big update!
http://www.prodyon-virtual-gear.com/dow ... e_v1.5.rar
Fixes/Changes in v1.5:
v1.5 Release Notes:
MIDI Learn: If you experience wobbling or strange behaviour
with an automated control while playback, make sure your keyboard
doesn't send aftertouch while doing MIDI-learn!
New Preset loading/saving:
This feature is still under development but working stable
right now. You can save phenome layer-presets everywhere on
your harddisc(s). The full path to used sf2 files is stored
within each preset. *.phe-presets are simple text-files so
you can edit them afterwards (e.g. changing a soundfont).
There's a maximum of 128 preset per folder (browser).
If soundfonts are missing, Phenome will tell you so.
Sometimes the "Save Preset" button "hangs". So you click
somewhere after saving a preset and the dialog requester
pops up again. Simply press "Cancel" or the escape-key then.
To be fixed in next release.
Oh, and avoid saving patches in the "phenome" vst folder itself!
From there my file-exists-routine won't work. Also to be fixed in next release.
Thanks! Enjoy.
http://www.prodyon-virtual-gear.com/dow ... e_v1.5.rar
Fixes/Changes in v1.5:
- added preset browser (*.phe files)
added textfields for program/multi name and author
added patch/bank (FXP/FXB) buttons
changed buttons to popup menus
effect returns are now "on" at default
added filter drive/distort
added note-off trigger mode
added lock layer feature
added various tooltips (hints)
v1.5 Release Notes:
MIDI Learn: If you experience wobbling or strange behaviour
with an automated control while playback, make sure your keyboard
doesn't send aftertouch while doing MIDI-learn!
New Preset loading/saving:
This feature is still under development but working stable
right now. You can save phenome layer-presets everywhere on
your harddisc(s). The full path to used sf2 files is stored
within each preset. *.phe-presets are simple text-files so
you can edit them afterwards (e.g. changing a soundfont).
There's a maximum of 128 preset per folder (browser).
If soundfonts are missing, Phenome will tell you so.
Sometimes the "Save Preset" button "hangs". So you click
somewhere after saving a preset and the dialog requester
pops up again. Simply press "Cancel" or the escape-key then.
To be fixed in next release.
Oh, and avoid saving patches in the "phenome" vst folder itself!
From there my file-exists-routine won't work. Also to be fixed in next release.
Thanks! Enjoy.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
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- KVRist
- 375 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Kiel, Germany
I have some bugs to report that occured while testing v1.5 with Reaper 3.7:
1.)
When changing the Multi preset on the top left, the preset name gets distorted when the name is too long, e.g. "(Copy 1) Init Multi 001". Maybe centering the name is not the best solution.
2.)
When changing the Multi from the init patch to the next one and changing back, I get the following error message in Reaper (Phenome is running as a firewalled plugin in a dedicated process):
Program: ...\reaper_host32.exe
File: fopen.c
Line: 54
Expression: *file != _T('\0')
Clicking "ignore" solves the problem, but I am sure Reaper would have crashed if Phenome has not been firewalled. I don't know if this is an error in the Reaper plugin host or in Phenome. Note: this error does only happen after changing the path in the browser window to a new location, e.g. to drive "G".
1.)
When changing the Multi preset on the top left, the preset name gets distorted when the name is too long, e.g. "(Copy 1) Init Multi 001". Maybe centering the name is not the best solution.
2.)
When changing the Multi from the init patch to the next one and changing back, I get the following error message in Reaper (Phenome is running as a firewalled plugin in a dedicated process):
Program: ...\reaper_host32.exe
File: fopen.c
Line: 54
Expression: *file != _T('\0')
Clicking "ignore" solves the problem, but I am sure Reaper would have crashed if Phenome has not been firewalled. I don't know if this is an error in the Reaper plugin host or in Phenome. Note: this error does only happen after changing the path in the browser window to a new location, e.g. to drive "G".
Instrumental synthwave/synthpop with classical elements: https://www.feiyr.com/x/CaMResonance2022
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
Thanks for help!crisis-at-music wrote:I have some bugs to report that occured while testing v1.5 with Reaper 3.7:
1.)
When changing the Multi preset on the top left, the preset name gets distorted when the name is too long, e.g. "(Copy 1) Init Multi 001". Maybe centering the name is not the best solution.
2.)
When changing the Multi from the init patch to the next one and changing back, I get the following error message in Reaper (Phenome is running as a firewalled plugin in a dedicated process):
Program: ...\reaper_host32.exe
File: fopen.c
Line: 54
Expression: *file != _T('\0')
Clicking "ignore" solves the problem, but I am sure Reaper would have crashed if Phenome has not been firewalled. I don't know if this is an error in the Reaper plugin host or in Phenome. Note: this error does only happen after changing the path in the browser window to a new location, e.g. to drive "G".
1.) Changed to align left.
2.) I'm not 100% sure what causes this, but i might have an idea. I just recompiled Phenome and re-uploaded it. Please download it again, and give it a try !
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 24 Apr, 2010
Moving along nicely it appears.
Are the updates always on the first page of this thread or are they always on the KVR page for Phenome ?
(I will edit this post when I am clear as to where it is.)
Are the updates always on the first page of this thread or are they always on the KVR page for Phenome ?
(I will edit this post when I am clear as to where it is.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
On the first page of this thread and also on the KVR databasebob bobwood wrote:Moving along nicely it appears.
Are the updates always on the first page of this thread or are they always on the KVR page for Phenome ?
(I will edit this post when I am clear as to where it is.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3944 posts since 7 May, 2004 from behind his workbench
Next update will make browsing soundfonts more comfortable.
Its just too tedious too click once to open browser, doubleclick to load and THEN audition. In the next version this will be possible with one click
(or key up/down
)
Its just too tedious too click once to open browser, doubleclick to load and THEN audition. In the next version this will be possible with one click
(or key up/down
)
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