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alphadelphi · Post by **alphadelphi** » Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:05 pm

some improvements that i like to see:

-better documentation (i love to RTFM when the FTM is complete and updated)
-show the frequency of filter and eq's (i.e. not 0 to 100, but 20hz to 20Khz, not 15 but 440hz)
-envelopes: when set to 1/4 has to be the length of a quarter note, not just at 100 bpm, but accordingly to tempo changes (would be killer, i am asking too much??)

keep up the great job!

Exie · Post by **Exie** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:12 pm

Was animated wave icon beside Wave knob mentioned already?
I also found that invert oscillator feature (without any summing) is essential, and 180 phase degrees per oscillator are not enough

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:20 pm

The preset tree in your ACE, I don't like it!

I.e. the way Kore Player arranges it's presets for selection, I like that!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:18 pm

breakmixer wrote:The preset tree in your ACE, I don't like it!

I.e. the way Kore Player arranges it's presets for selection, I like that!

If that is like NI stuff in general, please no... I would rather have it as is.

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:56 pm

pdxindy wrote:
breakmixer wrote:The preset tree in your ACE, I don't like it!

I.e. the way Kore Player arranges it's presets for selection, I like that!
If that is like NI stuff in general, please no... I would rather have it as is.

I just downloaded Massive Demo, while it didn't bowl me over, the presets also sucked(only used vsthost on my laptop in the lounge with headphones coz my wife was watching X-Factor

), The preset organisation made sense, so yes like N.I. products in general...

Why don't you like that method?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:06 pm

Well, one can't make preset stuff right for everyone, but we're slowly getting there. As long as we're swimming in the upper midfield of this rather utilitarian feature then I'm very fine. I still much rather tweak optimal parameter ranges and find other ways of great sound design usability than spend too much time on preset retrieval.

That said, there are a lot of plans and concepts to improve preset organisation in my stuff, the whole favourites/junk markers are just the beginning.

breakmixer · Post by **breakmixer** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:22 pm

Urs wrote:Well, one can't make preset stuff right for everyone, but we're slowly getting there. As long as we're swimming in the upper midfield of this rather utilitarian feature then I'm very fine. I still much rather tweak optimal parameter ranges and find other ways of great sound design usability than spend too much time on preset retrieval.

That said, there are a lot of plans and concepts to improve preset organisation in my stuff, the whole favourites/junk markers are just the beginning.

OK, put it basic to you, when you install it default wise, it's messy! I.e. why cannot it be like this(if you don't like NI style)

Sound Designer 1 > Bass, Keys, Pads, FX, Synth, etc

Sound Designer 2 > Bass, Keys, Pads, FX, Synth, etc

Then also the Same Presets in

Library > Bass, Keys, Pads, FX, Synth, etc

It seems you got the sound designer to make banks, then just didn't organise them properly(or at all) and just went with their arrangements of presets....

Top synth apart from that!

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:07 pm

breakmixer wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
breakmixer wrote:The preset tree in your ACE, I don't like it!

I.e. the way Kore Player arranges it's presets for selection, I like that!
If that is like NI stuff in general, please no... I would rather have it as is.
I just downloaded Massive Demo, while it didn't bowl me over, the presets also sucked(only used vsthost on my laptop in the lounge with headphones coz my wife was watching X-Factor ), The preset organisation made sense, so yes like N.I. products in general...

Why don't you like that method?

The categories they have are not one I would choose...

I hate that database that it decides when to rebuild itself

I don't particularly like auditioning presets in different categories, then end up trying the same one I tried a few minutes ago.

I don't like how it deals with user presets compared to installed ones.

I find the introduction of complexity basically offsets its added utility so it is kind of a wash, but feels less in my hands so I like the current U-he scheme better.

I feel confident whatever Urs develops will be good and efficient and not so complex.

filulilu · Post by **filulilu** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:59 pm

Hi

Shouldn't MFM2 be able to load .tun files like ACE and Zebra? After all it has everything else in its "keys" window that make it a performance machine.

Yorgos

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:05 pm

filulilu wrote:Hi

Shouldn't MFM2 be able to load .tun files like ACE and Zebra? After all it has everything else in its "keys" window that make it a performance machine.

Yorgos

It's an FX unit, it doesn't produce sound on it's own, in order to play any scale. At least from what I know, after only using it a short time.
Filterscape can, but not MFM.

filulilu · Post by **filulilu** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:16 pm

mcnoone wrote:
filulilu wrote:Hi

Shouldn't MFM2 be able to load .tun files like ACE and Zebra? After all it has everything else in its "keys" window that make it a performance machine.

Yorgos
It's an FX unit, it doesn't produce sound on it's own, in order to play any scale. At least from what I know, after only using it a short time.
Filterscape can, but not MFM.

If the delay is set to Note Coarse or Fine it can act as a comb filter. It needs to be excited with a pulse or some kind of noise but the notes it produces are its own. Lots of room for rich living sounds.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:27 pm

MFM can't do .tun yet but might do so in future.

JackD · Post by **JackD** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:33 pm

Something I find myself wishing I had, is a freeze button on a LFO or MSEG. I could then tie a MIDI cc to it and stop the LFO via a footswitch. I don't know of any softsynth that has this.

mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:41 pm

JackD wrote:Something I find myself wishing I had, is a freeze button on a LFO or MSEG. I could then tie a MIDI cc to it and stop the LFO via a footswitch. I don't know of any softsynth that has this.

You could set the modwheel or other, to the lfo amplitude to lower it to 0.
Maybe then controlling the modwheel with the footswitch...possibly?
eh...maybe not.

bmrzycki · Post by **bmrzycki** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:02 pm

JackD wrote:Something I find myself wishing I had, is a freeze button on a LFO or MSEG. I could then tie a MIDI cc to it and stop the LFO via a footswitch. I don't know of any softsynth that has this.

I was able to get this working in a few minutes using the modmatrix:

When you depress an Expression pedal the tremolo kicks in and releasing the pedal stops the effect.

You could just as easily select MSEG1-4 as the Mod source and a different via (breath, aftertouch).

Or did you mean something different?

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