Available soon: Tone2 ElectraX

[pdxindy]

I don't think anyone's complaining, feature set looks perfect. There's a tendecny lately for synths to basically have multiple full synths in one via different parts/layers. Just a discussion on the usefulness of that. Same can be seen in things like Omnisphere, Largo, Albino. Many of us don't care about multiple layers, but so do, so the conclusion is of course: Good to include for people who like it!

If it is out of the way and does not use extra resources or have longer gui loading times, I don't really care if there are multiple instances of a synth built into one gui... I do figure I am paying extra for it though cause I guess the synth would cost less for 1 instance (layer). Regardless of those points, it is not some amazing feature cause one can already do that with any synth in ones host. Ohhhhhh, layering an instance of one preset with an arp along with a lead sound and splitting the keyboard!?!?! Been doing that for a long time... and quickly and efficiently.

And of course if I have 4 different synths that have multiple instances built in, then I have to learn 4 different implementations instead of 1 in the host...or pay extra for the 4 synths and not use it. Basically that functionality should be at the host level. The real issue is that not all hosts offer it in an easy to use form so synth makers respond by adding the functionality which lets them also charge more for their product.

[cryophonik]

Yeah, not everybody likes or needs all the bells and whistles,...

For those people, there's no shortage of excellent synths to choose from that are much simpler than ElectraX. But, for those of us who want a synth that is cram-packed with features and synthesis types for our toolbox, this looks like it will do nicely.

[pdxindy]

Personally I don't need 3D GUIs, but I think if you decide to use them you should take care to do it properly - this one is competition for Polyana.

No doubt the easiest knobs to work with is modern stuff like Zebra, hardware looking knobs with a small notch (esp on black) is nice for the demo pic, but not to work with..

I prefer not having the 3d GUI... but it would not stop me from getting a synth I like... it is the 'glow' on the 'LCD screens' that is hard on the eyes... please just make a flat background and not the 'glow' around everything...

[Happy Frog]

Sounds cool for 4/4 based presets. And I dig the skins on the website. How's about an introductory price, just asking.

Xenos, I like the sounds you did with Firebird so looking forward to hearing this.

[Brittlestem]

So, just to summarize the naysayers in this thread
- the GUI's crap
- there are too many features
- the new synthesis method is probably rubbish
- if it's low on CPU it's probably got low quality sound

Why did Tone2 leave KVR again?

[jupiter8]

So, just to summarize the naysayers in this thread
- the GUI's crap
- there are too many features
- the new synthesis method is probably rubbish
- if it's low on CPU it's probably got low quality sound

Why did Tone2 leave KVR again?

You forgot it's overpriced.

[Brittlestem]

So, just to summarize the naysayers in this thread
- the GUI's crap
- there are too many features
- the new synthesis method is probably rubbish
- if it's low on CPU it's probably got low quality sound

Why did Tone2 leave KVR again?

You forgot it's overpriced.

Yup, it's clearly overpriced for what it is. Or isn't.
Sounds awful too.

[penguinfromdeep]

+1

[Teksonik]

I do figure I am paying extra for it though cause I guess the synth would cost less for 1 instance (layer).

I'm afraid your logic is a bit flawed there.........


Anyway concerning sound design.....I'm supposed to save 4 separate patches and then you have to load each preset into 4 instances of the synth in your DAW to make the full patch? Makes sharing patches a little overcomplicated doesn't it? I'd much rather load one instance of Albino that uses all 4 layers than load 4 Albinos and then load 4 patches for example.

I was layering synths thru Midi a long time before there were any "softsynths" so I understand your point but in order for new synths to attract attention and compete in the marketplace they have to be more and more complex..............have more features.

I haven't even touched this new synth yet but I can tell you I won't be looking at it as 4 layers but as a 12 Osc synth.........where else are the new sounds going to come from except from more feature rich instruments?

[Echoes in the Attic]

I haven't even touched this new synth yet but I can tell you I won't be looking at it as 4 layers but as a 12 Osc synth.........

It's not a 12 oscillator synth unless you can send all 12 oscillators through the same signal path - same filters, effects and modulations, which you can't. Not that I would ever want a 12 oscillator synth! Three is the max I'd ever need personally.

As for your point about loading all 4 layers as one preset rather than 4 presets in different instances; Well sure, but why stop there, I want to load an entire song as a preset! Arps and all, then I really won't have to do any sound design or even writing of music at all!

[pikadilly]

So they released a resynthizer tool to cover up their unfulfilled promise with Gladiator2, with no guarantee on the functioning of the tool. We are even advised not to waste our time on it. Best yet they are going to release a new synth that can import wav sample...

[tenshin111]

At the bottom of this page:

http://www.tone2.com/html/electrax_synt ... st_au.html

you can see Intel & AMD & Motorola logos (optimized for those CPUs I guess) but...what Motorola CPU do they have in mind exactly?

[Teksonik]

I haven't even touched this new synth yet but I can tell you I won't be looking at it as 4 layers but as a 12 Osc synth.........

It's not a 12 oscillator synth unless you can send all 12 oscillators through the same signal path - same filters, effects and modulations, which you can't. Not that I would ever want a 12 oscillator synth! Three is the max I'd ever need personally.

Why would you want to route everything through the same signal path?

As for your point about loading all 4 layers as one preset rather than 4 presets in different instances; Well sure, but why stop there, I want to load an entire song as a preset! Arps and all, then I really won't have to do any sound design or even writing of music at all!

That's a really lame and silly analogy...............

[pdxindy]

I do figure I am paying extra for it though cause I guess the synth would cost less for 1 instance (layer).

I'm afraid your logic is a bit flawed there.........


Anyway concerning sound design.....I'm supposed to save 4 separate patches and then you have to load each preset into 4 instances of the synth in your DAW to make the full patch? Makes sharing patches a little overcomplicated doesn't it? I'd much rather load one instance of Albino that uses all 4 layers than load 4 Albinos and then load 4 patches for example.

I just made an instrument rack in Live with 3 instances of Zebra. The workflow goes like this:

Drag an instance of Zebra from the browser to a track.
Select the preset I want.
Hit Command-G which groups the selection (1 synth in this case) into an instrument rack.
Option drag the 1st layer to make a second layer with the same synth/preset
Option drag to make a 3rd layer.
set the octave down one on layer 2
Set the master detune down a couple cents on the 3rd layer.
Drag the rack to the browser... everything I just did is saved as a rack preset.
Fast, efficient, took me less than a minute and can be recalled via drag-n-drop


And of course I could have included separate 3rd party effects on each layer... which is really a huge limitation on a 4 layer synth... you mean you never want to put a different effect on one of the layers than what is included with the synth?? Maybe I want a compressor or a verb or a particular delay on one layer... oops... no can do... gotta dissect the thing... most of the that would be the case so I have learned I would rather just use racks to start with because it is far more flexible and has no dead end that requires retracing my steps.

You are right that sharing presets is easier. Nothing wrong with you liking/wanting the feature... I just don't care about it.

[rob_lee]

f**k me all these tit for tats here FFS...
I wanna hear some AUDIO DEMOSany f**king chance of hearing something?????????

Just knock something up FFS and let us hear it

Rob