All MeldaProduction effects updated to 4.02 and released MAutoAlign and MTuner!

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Hey folks,

so another update is here. Nothing serious, just a few more features and fixes.

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And there are also 2 new plugins. MAutoAlign is an automatic solution for problems with phase cancellations when recording a single instrument using multiple microphones. Instead of searching for optimal delays and phase inversions, this plugin analyses the audio material in all tracks at once and solves the problem for you. The plugin is free for users of MTotalBundle and MMasteringBundle, or available for riddiculous introductory price of 20 EUR as usual.

Another plugin is MTuner, which is a simple frequency analyzer designed mainly for tuning guitars and is free.

Cheers!
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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Brilliant! Care to elaborate on the new features?

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TFF wrote:Brilliant! Care to elaborate on the new features?
Please check
http://www.meldaproduction.com/mtotalbu ... ge=changes
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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MeldaProduction Website wrote:MAutoEqualizer can now analyse external files, supported formats are WAV, FLAC and MP3.
Great!
I was missing that :-)

Any chance that you could add support for Apple Lossless for us poor ol' iTuners at some point?

Best,


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Surphaze wrote:
MeldaProduction Website wrote:MAutoEqualizer can now analyse external files, supported formats are WAV, FLAC and MP3.
Any chance that you could add support for Apple Lossless for us poor ol' iTuners at some point?
Hmmm, I don't really get this one. Apple Lossless seems to be a codec, so what could that be for? I don't know about iTunes, but our plugins support AU, which is an extremely overcomplicated interface, which from my perspective is not designed for professional audio (which is our software), but mostly for low-end stuff (iTunes), so I suppose iTunes should support it, or doesn't it?
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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Hey,

MeldaProduction wrote:
Surphaze wrote:
MeldaProduction Website wrote:MAutoEqualizer can now analyse external files, supported formats are WAV, FLAC and MP3.
Any chance that you could add support for Apple Lossless for us poor ol' iTuners at some point?
Hmmm, I don't really get this one. Apple Lossless seems to be a codec, so what could that be for? I don't know about iTunes, but our plugins support AU, which is an extremely overcomplicated interface, which from my perspective is not designed for professional audio (which is our software), but mostly for low-end stuff (iTunes), so I suppose iTunes should support it, or doesn't it?
Apple Lossless is a Codec, yep. It's a lossless compressed audio codec and iTunes supports that one but not FLAC.

As an iTunes user who doesn't want to use a lossless compression on audio files, I have my whole music library ripped from my CDs to Apple Lossless format - simply because iTunes, my player of choice, doesn't support FLAC.

What I meant is: It's great that you added the option to choose an external audio file for analyzation by MAutoEqualizer. Unfortunately I have to convert a song from my library first to use the feature cause 95% of my library exists in Apple Lossless format.
My question was: Maybe you could add support for analyzing external files in other formats than WAV, FLAC, MP3.
Apple Lossless would be the pedant for FLAC. Also common on the Mac platform is the AAC format on the lossy compression side. Better sound than mp3 at same rates, comparable to ogg vorbis. And AIFF as the classic Mac uncompressed format would be a good idea too, it's basically the same as WAV, just some changes in the headers AFAIK so it might be easy to include it as an option. I think decoders for AAC and Apple Lossless are anyway available in the system framework on apple computers and if not, it can be done by simple applescript commands. Dunno, might be relatively painless to implement this but that's up to you to judge in the end... I just wanted to voice that support for typical Mac formats would be useful for me, potentially for others:-)

All the best,


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Aaaaha! Well, frankly this isn't that simple to do. Each of these formats has to be implemented somehow and tested a lot across different sampling rates, bit rates, systems etc... So I'm not really inclined to this.

As far as AIFF is concerned, I believe it is finally disappearing, because WAV is basically the same, so why should every developer implement 2 different yet the same formats? And here Microsoft won of course with majority of software and users.
This one would be the easiest to implement though, on the other hand since Apple designed it I suspect it will be full of troubles as usual. But maybe not...

With AAC, well, honestly they are used in movies, but otherwise I haven't seen one in years. Anyway codecs for this are rather complicated and I really don't want to attach to external codecs, since this is always very dangerous. This one definitely no. The widest supported are MP3 so we should stick to that.

And finally Apple Lossless - well, to be honest (you'll hate me for that :) ), besides the main problem with external codecs, I don't want to support it by principle - personally I don't know anyone who still uses iTunes (well now I know you :) ), because such monopolistic piece of software, which supports only Apple's formats is just sad. It's a typical Apple's behaviour, which is personally not acceptable for me and I definitely don't want to support such a behaviour.
The whole world decided to go for FLAC, I suspect there is a reason for it. And once in the lifetime Apple should adapt, but they rather think everyone will obey their orders...

Sorry for being honest, I'm just too sick of Apple's marketing strategies... :D
Anyway I'll add AIFF to to-do list.
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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MeldaProduction wrote:As far as AIFF is concerned, I believe it is finally disappearing, because WAV is basically the same, so why should every developer implement 2 different yet the same formats? And here Microsoft won of course with majority of software and users.
I agree. Almost all Mac apps do support WAV today. Many Mac users do still have AIFF files lying around but well, in this case I wouldn't even mind bulk-converting them all to WAV.

MeldaProduction wrote:This one would be the easiest to implement though, on the other hand since Apple designed it I suspect it will be full of troubles as usual. But maybe not...
Well, if it's not very easy, don't do it, at least not for me because I don't see a reason to not simply convert all AIFF to WAV files.

MeldaProduction wrote:With AAC, well, honestly they are used in movies, but otherwise I haven't seen one in years. Anyway codecs for this are rather complicated and I really don't want to attach to external codecs, since this is always very dangerous. This one definitely no. The widest supported are MP3 so we should stick to that.
You are aware that Apple is leading in the commercial music market and iTunes downloads come in AAC format, right? You might not be around in circles of people that use the iTunes store at too much, I'm not the big iTunes store client either, I actually prefer CDs (yes, I'm THAT old-fashioned:-D ) but there oughta be lots of people that actually use it.
Still there's a choice as MP3 works in iTunes as well.

MeldaProduction wrote:And finally Apple Lossless - well, to be honest (you'll hate me for that :) ), besides the main problem with external codecs, I don't want to support it by principle
I appreciate the honesty and of course I still hate you for that ;-)

MeldaProduction wrote:personally I don't know anyone who still uses iTunes (well now I know you :) ),
I know a lot of people that do.

MeldaProduction wrote:because such monopolistic piece of software, which supports only Apple's formats is just sad. It's a typical Apple's behaviour, which is personally not acceptable for me and I definitely don't want to support such a behaviour.
The whole world decided to go for FLAC, I suspect there is a reason for it. And once in the lifetime Apple should adapt, but they rather think everyone will obey their orders...
Apple delivers tools that suite me very well, much better than what Microsoft has to offer (I have a PC too) and Linux-based systems don't support proper DAW applications. Just to make that clear, I'm not a blind Apple disciple that praises every move the company makes.
I don't intend to join any bashing either as it doesn't lead anywhere good.
I have very good reasons to use Apple products.

I totally agree with your points about proprietary formats and I find it completely inappropriate that Apple still doesn't natively support FLAC but that's how it is by now and it won't change because other companies don't support Apple Lossless. I really hope they at some point come to their senses.
Similar thing about VST3 / AU.

But well, at the moment I use iTunes until someone can suggest a proper alternative to me that is simple to use, stable and offers library management.
When I was still playing the CDs in a CD-player, I also had a simple Sony player, it really didn't matter, as it was only supposed to play music;-)
So right now I'm with iTunes and have 200GB of music in Apple Lossless format so I'm kinda stuck with it until I switch to another player (open for suggestions) and convert everything to FLAC (wouldn't have any problem with that, on the contrary) or until Apple supports FLAC (if that ever happens).

MeldaProduction wrote:Sorry for being honest, I'm just too sick of Apple's marketing strategies... :D
I absolutely appreciate the honesty.
I also see your valid points to some extend and I support doing things out of principle but in this case I don't think you make a significant stand by not supporting Apple Lossless. Nobody will care apart from a few users that would like the feature;-)
I find it completely alright that you don't implement it if you don't see enough users with the need for it to justify the effort of implementing it.
You only have a limited amount of time so better put it where it's of best use :-)


I will just do it with a little applescript converting my file of choice before I load it with MAutoEqualizer. Easiest way:-)

Best,


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Wow, after writing all of this, I got annoyed with Apple. I filled out a feature request for FLAC support (not for the first time) and sent it to them.

Enough time wasted on this topic where Apple makes things ridiculously difficult that could be so simple :-(

Best,


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Yeah, thanks for understanding. You know, in ideal world I'd like to have all features potentially available with perfectly layout GUI, which can fit 100x100 screen and all of it would take 0.001% of a mobile CPU :D. Unfortunately the situation is a little bit more complicated :D.

Anyway with the MAutoEqualizer you can still load the file into your DAW and analyse it inside.
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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Surphaze wrote:Wow, after writing all of this, I got annoyed with Apple. I filled out a feature request for FLAC support (not for the first time) and sent it to them.

Enough time wasted on this topic where Apple makes things ridiculously difficult that could be so simple :-(
Yeah, good job!
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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Any idea as to when there may be some presets in the online exchange? Not complaining or anything, just looking forward to the possibility of getting some more rythmizier presets

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ezelkow1 wrote:Any idea as to when there may be some presets in the online exchange? Not complaining or anything, just looking forward to the possibility of getting some more rythmizier presets
Yeah, I always forget about it - I'll process the presets asap. Anyway note that there will be more presets only if someone creates them ;). And I sense more people will be that lazy, always waiting for new presets, but not doing anything. This is a community feature after all.
Vojtech
MeldaProduction MSoundFactory MDrummer MCompleteBundle The best plugins in the world :D

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MeldaProduction wrote: Yeah, I always forget about it - I'll process the presets asap. Anyway note that there will be more presets only if someone creates them ;). And I sense more people will be that lazy, always waiting for new presets, but not doing anything. This is a community feature after all.
Definitely true on that one. How do we submit presets if we think we make some good ones? or do they just get submitted automatically?

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Yes ;). That's the beauty of it - you just create presets the same way you would do normally and when downloading new ones, your are submitted.
Vojtech
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