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pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:30 am

Using the Zebra demo in Fl Studio 9.1 on Windows 7 64-bit, I have the GUI set to large and weird lines appear on the GUI after a while, after I tweak a knob for example. I double click the fruity wrapper to minimize it, double click it again to maximize it and now the weird lines are gone. (Or I can just click on a different Tab in Zebra to get rid of the lines. Switch between the "Performance" and "Synthesis" tabs for example. But the lines always come back after a little while (few minutes). This does not happen when I use the normal size skin.

abstractcats · Post by **abstractcats** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:52 am

pheeleep wrote:Using the Zebra demo in Fl Studio 9.1, I have the GUI set to large and weird lines appear on the GUI after a while, after I tweak a knob for example. I double click the fruity wrapper to minimize it, double click it again to maximize it and now the weird lines are gone. (Or I can just click on a different Tab in Zebra to get rid of the lines. Switch between the "Performance" and "Synthesis" tabs for example. But the lines always come back after a little while (few minutes). This does not happen when I use the normal size skin.

Similar here in FL 9.6 with Zebra set to normal(also, my copy is registered), but I also get a large white-ish bar on the right side when using the "original" skin. Hmmmm

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:59 am

Yes you are right,

Normal size>original skin: Gives me a big white bar on the right side and a thin horizontal blue line that runs at the bottom.

Normal size>Unempty dark horse skin: A thin vertical blue line on the right side (to the right of this is a grey rectangle block), a thin horizontal blue line that runs at the bottom.

Large size, any skin. No white bar or blue bars, but lines appear in the GUI after a while.

There's definitely something weird going on. If I set the size to large and switch presets, the border around the GUI shrinks to the size of the normal size, yet the skin inside is the large skin, so I can't see the entire GUI. It's showing me part of the Large sized skin inside the normal sized one. Basically it's the height and width of the normal size skin, but the GUI inside is the large size skin.

Also if I change to small size and switch presets, it shows me the small GUI in the normal size skin, so there's just a bunch of empty space.

Urs, if you want I can send you screenshots. Just let me know what e-mail address to send them to.

-edit- In the fruity wrapper, I unchecked "check properties on display change", and now I can use the large skin all the time. When I switch presets, the skin remains large (I'm waiting to see if the lines come back). Howvever, if I want to switch to normal size skin again, I have to recheck that option in the wrapper or else the normal size skin is shown in the large wrapper once I switch presets. Just somethin to know I guess, but still the normal size skins do not look righjt in Fl Studio ( blue lines and white block, etc..)

abstractcats · Post by **abstractcats** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:19 am

Hmmm, interesting, I'll try Zebra in cantabile tomorrow and see what happens and post, good luck pheeleep.

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:39 am

The "check properties on display change" in the wrapper can be checked or unchecked actually. It seems that if the wrapper has a problem resizing, I check this and it does it right. But then if I switch to a different size skin, the problem happens again and I uncheck that option in the wrapper to fix the problem. So, it's not consistent. Sometimes it's when I check, and sometimes it's when I uncheck, that the problem gets fixed. I just loaded zebra twice in the project, In one zebra, that wrapper option is checked and zebra behaves normally and in the other instance the option is unchecked and zebra behaves normally. I am surprised no one has brought this up before. Not many Fl Studio users using zebra, huh?

Hopefully this will get sorted by the time I can afford to get Zebra

core · Post by **core** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:23 am

I don't have Zebra handy right now but I know there are some blue lines (bottom and right, 1px I think) on ACE in my FL Studio. These only appear in the normal size.

When I move the wrapper with small, large, and cinematic GUI sizes selected, the white lines appear. Interestingly enough not in any of the other sizes.

I use the regular size (also for Zebra) and have no problems with the blue lines, I think most users wouldn't complain about it too much.

core · Post by **core** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:30 am

To add, I just did a quick check with ACE and those white lines appear immediately when I drag the wrapper around in such a way that the GUI disappears behind another FL Studio element in the foreground.

In the image below I detached the mixer, and moved the ACE wrapper (with small skin) behind the mixer and the file brower bar on the left and pulled it back out.

Seems like some kind of redraw problem.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:36 am

It's a known issue. Tried to fix it several times, but to no avail. I'm gonna give it another go soon.

pierb · Post by **pierb** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:05 am

Sometimes in Zebra I get small visual bugs like that one, but most often the highlighted module png (I supose) it's not exactly where it should.

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:08 am

I hope you can fix this "lines issue" in FL Studio, Urs. In all honestly I can't see myself spending $200 on Zebra with this bug, no matter how nice Zebra sounds. This graphic bug is too distracting and it happens way too often. Even the blue lines that show in the normal size Unempty Dark Horse GUI bug me. Aesthetics do matter to me I guess, especially when I am spending that kind of money..

I'm sure you'll do what you can, but have you contacted Image-line to see if they can help you pin point the problem? Fred (Reflex) from Image-Line is very helfpul and he codes the fl wrapper. Maybe he can give you some pointers..

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:25 am

Hmmm... the white lines only appear in the 64-bit version IIRC. I'm quite certain I can fix them.

core · Post by **core** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:39 am

Urs wrote:Hmmm... the white lines only appear in the 64-bit version IIRC. I'm quite certain I can fix them.

The ones in ACE are with the 32-bit version.

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:38 pm

I have only installed the 32 bit version of zebra on my 64 bit machine. I get the white lines with the 32 bit version...

pheeleep · Post by **pheeleep** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:26 am

Hello Urs,

Do you want me to see if Image-Line can help pinpoint the issue with the Zebra and Ace GUI bugs in FL Studio? They may have an idea of what's going on (?) and can perhaps guide you in the right direction (?)

I e-mailed you about this (through the KVR forum) but haven't heard back.

I would really love to see a fixed version by Christmas, as I plan on getting Zebra as my christmas present.

Do you think you'll have a new demo with the GUI bug fixed by Christmas?

By the way, all you need to do to get the lines to appear in the Zebra GUI is to load the 32 bit version, set the size to large, and drag the GUI towards the bottom of the screen, where the Windows taskbar is. You should now see lines appear on the GUI.

Thanks and I really hope you get to the bottom of this. I love everything about Zebra except this one thing...

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:57 am

Sorry, I forgot to post: I think I fixed the lines issue. Need to look over it again though.

Wanted to post an update after fixing MSEG/Swing, but that is still causing mental mayhem to me.

I might post updates today (lines fixed, LFO/Arp Swing fixed, e-flat tuning fixed)

Later,

Urs

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