Ferric TDS vs Nebula StuderA800 (R2R) vs UAD

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Kingston wrote: 3. That Nebula library clearly does not minge-fart your sound. That doesn't mean it's bad or that it's forbidden to like it. It's just not tape.
It does seem like you are focussing on only one element and not necessarily the most useful...whilst simultaneously negating the fact that none of the tape 'emulations' are tape either...they are emulations which to my ears do not sound convincing overall - fart sound or not.

Since owning Nebula R2R Ive not so much missed the fart element of tape...but Ive sold all my other tape emulators and judging by the comparisons Im not sad that I sold my UAD card either...

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Kingston wrote:3. That Nebula library clearly does not minge-fart your sound. That doesn't mean it's bad or that it's forbidden to like it. It's just not tape.
I find this funny, considering Nebula is actually... wait for it... SAMPLED TAPE, whereas the UAD is an algorithmic approximation.

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jazztard wrote:
Kingston wrote:
kmonkey wrote:You really really like Tape fart don't you?
YES
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futurefields wrote:
Kingston wrote:3. That Nebula library clearly does not minge-fart your sound. That doesn't mean it's bad or that it's forbidden to like it. It's just not tape.
I find this funny, considering Nebula is actually... wait for it... SAMPLED TAPE, whereas the UAD is an algorithmic approximation.
If you'd know a bit more about how nebula works and followed their development, you'd know that Nebula can not properly sample dynamics.. yet. It struggles especially with "instant" attack/release sources, like tape.

So, all Nebula can do at the moment is approximate the "sound", flavour and harmonic content of tape and it's overdrive. That's all.

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Yep. Because something samples something, that doesn't speak to how accurately it samples it.
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Kingston wrote:And to answer your initial inquiry,

no, it is not strange that UAD would put out an expensive tape sim that craps out so easily when driven hard, especially when the source they are emulating behaves exactly like that, too.
Well... that's strange :roll:

Because according to UAD :
UAD wrote:You can deliberately saturate the A800 — and get a smooth, pleasing overdriven tape sound
Maybe UAD's farts are "smooth, pleasing".

Mine's not :D
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Saturating doesn't mean driving it hard to obvious distortion
circuit modeling and 0-dfb filters are cool

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penguinfromdeep wrote:Saturating doesn't mean driving it hard to obvious distortion
we are talking "overdriven", not just "saturation".

The meaning of overdriven is "pushed too hard" (if it's just "hard" then its just "driven" :) )
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alteregoxxx wrote:so...the answer is...

A= Ferric fx chain (Ferric+ reaeq)
B= Nebula
Can you share the settings you used for A?

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Mudcat007 wrote:
alteregoxxx wrote:so...the answer is...

A= Ferric fx chain (Ferric+ reaeq)
B= Nebula
Can you share the settings you used for A?
+1

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bmanic wrote:So, all Nebula can do at the moment is approximate the "sound", flavour and harmonic content of tape and it's overdrive. That's all.

Cheers!
bManic
Is that bad ?

I mean, if people are pleased (VERY pleased) with the results... isn't THAT
what counts ? :)

As I see it, this approximation works well for most people... do we have to
seek that "extra inch" just for the sake of it ?... :)

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Just apply some gentle compression with FerricTDS and then color with Nebula. ITB tape.

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Here is the Reaper FxChain i've used for A:

http://www.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx? ... 6575afac6d
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Could you please post a screenshot for those that don't use your host?
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futurefields wrote:Just apply some gentle compression with FerricTDS and then color with Nebula. ITB tape.
that how we used colortone pro in blend mode it worked well make you some step tape impulses an your good to go

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