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ttoz wrote:Well that one is quite easy to answer. Ultimately it's the versatility of aether that makes it a cut above... the sound shaping possibilities are quite unique, there's a gazillion ways to sculpt the verb.
Yup. Did get it eventually, and wont regret it either from what I've heard so far. It may seem overwhelming, but honestly I think that all these features are pretty logical and useful for.. yeah, sculpting like you say. Thanks for the feedback.

But ttoz, dont go putting ideas in my head that I need Breeze as well now. Its hard enough to stay sane as it is :D

Cheers.

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ttoz wrote:A very very basic verb, with high cpu demand, that is absolutely thrashed by the likes of Eos for example.
ttoz wrote:I am trying to work out cause it's such a tempting intro offer, where breeze can fit in between these two.

I'm all ears. I am fairly certain i prefer lxp to breeze and fairly certain i prefer aether to breeze so does that mean, breeze for me would be a waste of dosh? I guess at $75 i can;t possibly lose on resale if i decide it;s not for me...

hmmm.......

but breeze does have something. Something in the wind.
Nice to see that you are hopefully about to change your mind ... :-)

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Is the Galbanum_White_Christmas coupon code valid on Breeze? I keep getting an invalid error message.
I miss MindPrint. My TRIO needs a big brother.

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nigel_khan wrote:Is the Galbanum_White_Christmas coupon code valid on Breeze? I keep getting an invalid error message.
Hey nigel. Like Galbanum says: "Introducing the Galbanum White Christmas Promo. 25% off any and all Galbanum products, excluding the Galbanum MetaSynth Bundle, and all 2CAudio products (which have their own specials already)."

Breeze obviously is a 2CAudio product so...
ttoz wrote: I guess at $75 i can;t possibly lose on resale if i decide it;s not for me...
Well, thats the only minus about 2C products I can see, the transfer fees. I guess that even if you pay less now, you still have to pay transfer fees (which is at 20%). That would be $30 for Breeze and $50 for Aether.

Makes it even more exclusive though. Just look how "often" Aether shows up in the marketplace ;)

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Chris Ihao wrote:
nigel_khan wrote:Is the Galbanum_White_Christmas coupon code valid on Breeze? I keep getting an invalid error message.
Hey nigel. Like Galbanum says: "Introducing the Galbanum White Christmas Promo. 25% off any and all Galbanum products, excluding the Galbanum MetaSynth Bundle, and all 2CAudio products (which have their own specials already)."

Breeze obviously is a 2CAudio product so...
Doh! Thanks for that, I saw ttoz mention $75, put 2 and 2 together and got 25%. Must be the flu shot I just got. It usually wipes me out, bloody swine.
I miss MindPrint. My TRIO needs a big brother.

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ttoz wrote:
Does ultra smooth use less or more cpu on aether? do you mean 1x OS or 2x? I always preferred ultra smooth to "balanced".. what's your take on that Andrew?
More of course. About 30% more. And this is the mode that should be compared to breeze.

And breeze is true stereo so stereo mode in aether needs to be "lr-stereo".

And breeze has no oversampling so os in aether should be 1x.

This gives an accurate CPU use comparison. But check the previous notes also as there are ways to make breeze go way lower.

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Re lexicon. No of course I don't think it is shit. Lexicon, as one of the fathers of the industry, of course knows their stuff and make good products. Most of their algs are simply designed a long time ago when at the time this was all the hardware could handle. Our algs are much more complex. Aether can do a ton of things that lex does not or at least has never done to date. These things require CPU.

Breeze I thought was much closer in cpu usage as I thought I remembered some lex algs being around 500 instances on my 8core machine. I say over 500 at min settings in breeze to be conservative but I think it is closer to 600. I did the check earlier in beta. So I should check again when I return from vacation with the final retail build. I will make a chart of my findings.

Further optimizations in breeze (or aether)? Probably not much, no. We already use SSe assembly language (which btw lex has said they do not currently use) and their is little room for further optimization using existing technologies afaik. But future technologies may be promising. We'll see.

But really with a 12 core machine top of the line workstation of today you could run around 900 instances of breeze at min settings. Do you really need more than that? Do you really need anything remotely close to that?? Shouldn't we rather concentrate on the "pristine" part at this point and accept that the "light" part is pretty freaking light already? ;-)

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Aether does not do the lex sound (imo) so those two verbs are going to totally complement eachother.
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Correct. Aether does not do "the lex sound".

Why should it? Aether does "the aether sound". And we think it's a pretty awesome sound.

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Galbanum wrote:Aether does "the aether sound". And we think it's a pretty awesome sound.
Same as Breeze, which sounds amazing! ;)

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Let's not forget that we've been listening to the Lex sound for decades. It's hard to move away from something familiar, especially for the producers. If it works... Same reason ProTools is top of the heap in DAWs, SSL/API in EQ, 1176's, etc, etc...

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