Problems in Cubase 5 with Zebra 2.5?

[bmrzycki]

Nah, sounds like too much fiddling. I am not that risky with the system.

I completely understand. One alternative is to use the installer and place the files in a directory outside of Program Files. Then add the directory to Cubase's VST search path. Done

[Elektrobolt]

I completely understand.

I have now gone with your earlier suggestion (I saw that Urs had suggested this too, as a workaround) of moving the data folder to "My Documents" and placing a shortcut pointing to it in the original installation folder.

Voila!

Again, a HUGE thanks for the help and suggestions!!!

[bmrzycki]

Again, a HUGE thanks for the help and suggestions!!!

and welcome!

[mcnoone]

From the beta thread.

This plug is absolutely outstanding, I am enjoying making sounds again, immensely. It is sooo easy compared to a lot of other soft synths I've used. And I like the fact that the oscillator is basically a synth in its own right, and THEN you can modulate it, lol.

Congratulations on getting Zebra.
Here's some pages to help you out.
Free presets from this page.
http://www.u-he.com/PatchLib/
Also a thread with some sound design tips.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=298846

There might be a sound design page soon on the U-he website, so check for that in the future.
Regards,
Michael

[Urs]

I have now gone with your earlier suggestion (I saw that Urs had suggested this too, as a workaround) of moving the data folder to "My Documents" and placing a shortcut pointing to it in the original installation folder.

This is how it's going to be. One of the next major improvements will be adding this functionality into Zebra itself. And of course I'll try to make the installer "refuse" to move Zebra2.data into no-go-territory.

This has been an ongoing struggle for me since day one. I yet prefer to keep everything in visible files rather than obscure Registry entries and such.

[Elektrobolt]

One of the next major improvements will be adding this functionality into Zebra itself. And of course I'll try to make the installer "refuse" to move Zebra2.data into no-go-territory.

This has been an ongoing struggle for me since day one. I yet prefer to keep everything in visible files rather than obscure Registry entries and such.

I know it's a hidden folder, but how about putting the Zebra2.data folder in the "ProgramData" folder?

Or maybe even just put the Zebra2.data folder in "My Documents"?

You can still put the "binaries" in Program Files then.

(Just trying to help!)

[Elektrobolt]

Also, this doc might help in terms of user presets (load/save):

https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/kn ... on-changed

[Urs]

Hi, yeah, hmmm... Program Data and App Data are also hidden sometimes. My Documents is definately the most secure area...

The upcoming manual (rewritten from scratch) will have a section for troubleshooting which will also help.

Urs

[asseca]

Hi, yeah, hmmm... Program Data and App Data are also hidden sometimes. My Documents is definately the most secure area...

I prefer to keep data of plugins in a separate root folder, I my case it is D:\VstData. I keep all my plugins in D:\VstPlugins. It makes it much easier for me to maintain these 2 folders on the D: drive far away from the standard Windows stuff. I try to keep the My Documents folder as empty as possible.

Basically one can place the Zebra2.data folder, as long as that folder is not one of those "dedicated" Windows folders ...

[bmrzycki]

I know it's a hidden folder, but how about putting the Zebra2.data folder in the "ProgramData" folder?

I'd personally vote against this. Zebra2.data is where all the synth presets are stored. I predict nothing but "where are my presets" questions here, especially since it's not trivial to get to ProgramData from explorer.

[asseca]

I know it's a hidden folder, but how about putting the Zebra2.data folder in the "ProgramData" folder?

I'd personally vote against this. Zebra2.data is where all the synth presets are stored. I predict nothing but "where are my presets" questions here, especially since it's not trivial to get to ProgramData from explorer.

+1

[Elektrobolt]

I know it's a hidden folder, but how about putting the Zebra2.data folder in the "ProgramData" folder?

I'd personally vote against this. Zebra2.data is where all the synth presets are stored. I predict nothing but "where are my presets" questions here, especially since it's not trivial to get to ProgramData from explorer.

Steinberg has a "VST3 Presets" folder in my Documents area where the patches get stored when using the Cubase 5 Preset interface. Zebra could easily have a "Zebra2 Presets" folder here too, where its "native" user presets are stored. (I personally use the Cubase Preset management since it's the same for all plugins, but of course I do see the necessity for the "native" version. )

As for ProgramData, I believe that Microsofts idea is for an application to be able to store stuff here. Meaning, not user data, but actual application data, sort of like what Zebra is trying to save when exiting, for example.

I believe the idea is that program data (such as "factory" patches, templates, defaults, registration, etc., in this case) can be "handled" (e.g. backed up) one way, and user data ("native" user patches, user templates, etc., in this case) can be dealt with another way.

Well, it's just my 2 cents.

[asseca]

Currently you can place the Zebra2.data anywhere you want, so what is the problem ??

Other than advising users not to place the Zebra.data folder in any "protected" Windows/OSX folders I do not see any problem.

[Elektrobolt]

Currently you can place the Zebra2.data anywhere you want, so what is the problem ??

Other than advising users not to place the Zebra.data folder in any "protected" Windows/OSX folders I do not see any problem.

It is still a commercial product sold for money and there is a certain level of professionalism expected from customers.

Being such a super-plugin as Zebra2, I would hate to see a relatively simple thing like an installation make it seem like the software has "problems" when customers install it.

One should not HAVE to "move" anything if the the intention is to use the product "normally". Especially since not everyone is a computer "expert" about these matters.

I am sure that Urs (and customers) would love to not need to "advise" anything about something that obviously CAN be resolved at install.

All I am trying to do is help Urs with how I see things. Doesn't mean he has to listen to me or do anything about it. It's not a demand, it's an assist.

[Urs]

Yeah. As I said, it's been a struggle from the day Vista was released.

I do many things differently from other companies, and being perceived as "not professional" may sometimes be a side effect of that. (To back this up, during the Steven Slate fallout someone called u-he a "small company" and them a "major company")

I usually do what I perceive as consensus among users. The vast majority (or, "loudest crowd") of people voted for a shortcut to a directory with everything in place. That's what we have.

Now we need to improve the installer and the software itself to overcome the recent troubles ever since W7 became successful.

Urs