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mcnoone · Post by **mcnoone** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:59 pm

elxicano wrote:Also, don't discount reading the manual...

I'm guilty of that myself, but with the new Zebra2.5 manual almost complete, I think I'll print them out, and give em a good read during my early morning dump time.
I really need to learn how to set modwheel-aftertouch settings in ACE, which some reading might help with.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:45 pm

kennyda wrote:Nicks ones are 2 hours.

Nick who? Link?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:49 pm

Long videos are great for getting a FEEL for what a synth is capable of, but I think a series of very short videos is best for learning.

Shabdahbriah · Post by **Shabdahbriah** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:58 pm

Howard wrote:Long videos are great for getting a FEEL for what a synth is capable of, but I think a series of very short videos is best for learning.

+1

"Task specific" is good.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:01 pm

Shabdahbriah wrote:
Howard wrote:Long videos are great for getting a FEEL for what a synth is capable of, but I think a series of very short videos is best for learning.
+1

"Task specific" is good.

+1

But please don't make them to short. I really don't like these 1:17min videos which are over before you have even realised that you hit the play button

Cheers
Dennis

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:38 pm

mcnoone wrote:
elxicano wrote:Also, don't discount reading the manual...
I'm guilty of that myself, but with the new Zebra2.5 manual almost complete, I think I'll print them out, and give em a good read during my early morning dump time.
I really need to learn how to set modwheel-aftertouch settings in ACE, which some reading might help with.

As funny as it may sound... I'm anxiously awaiting the finished 2.5 manual! I'll be converting this also, to epub (.mobi for kindle) and with Urs'/Howard's blessing (but not before) I'd be more than happy to share the converted manual with anyone interested.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:49 pm

elxicano wrote:I'll be converting this also, to epub (.mobi for kindle)

Will these formats retain the hyperlinks at the bottom of each page?

kennyda · Post by **kennyda** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:55 pm

Howard wrote:
kennyda wrote:Nicks ones are 2 hours.
Nick who? Link?

http://nickstutorials.com/

I have the Operator and Analog. The basics are covered in the first couple and then you work through some examples including mapping and so on. Very good. To be honest, they are part of the reason I upgraded to Suite. I am sort of getting the hang of ACE, but I would rather watch something like that. They are only about £10 per vid, fantastic value. In fact the videos are longer than 2 hours, one is nearly 4 hours!! Thing is you get the basics in the first half hour. Of course if you are copying what you are taught and experimenting a bit it takes you even longer to go through them.

kennyda · Post by **kennyda** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:02 pm

Howard wrote:Long videos are great for getting a FEEL for what a synth is capable of, but I think a series of very short videos is best for learning.

they basically are a series of short ones. Same with groove 3.

Nick's operator one for instance is 13 short videos. You dont want any individual one loner than about 15 minutes, its too much.

Groove 3's Operator one is 21 short videos. He starts with some general basic stuff which could apply to any synth, which is good so you understand what harmonics do etc. Nick starts with the interface and explains stuff as he goes.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:51 pm

I watched a few of the free videos by "Nick". Good relaxed style, and he seems to know Ableton well... but I don't care much for those sounds he comes up with.
Maybe it's actually the fundamental (!) sound of the instruments in Ableton I don't like, though.

Bronto Scorpio · Post by **Bronto Scorpio** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:53 pm

Howard wrote:Maybe it's actually the fundamental (!) sound of the instruments in Ableton I don't like, though.

kennyda · Post by **kennyda** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:14 pm

Howard wrote:I watched a few of the free videos by "Nick". Good relaxed style, and he seems to know Ableton well... but I don't care much for those sounds he comes up with.
Maybe it's actually the fundamental (!) sound of the instruments in Ableton I don't like, though.

some of the sounds were ok, but to me even if they didnt seem usable for my style it was a good learning curve.

I'm not sure I can really tell the difference, I know ACE has the best sounds usually. Need to figure it out some more. How do you do a sine wave?

elxsound · Post by **elxsound** » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:53 pm

Howard wrote:
elxicano wrote:I'll be converting this also, to epub (.mobi for kindle)
Will these formats retain the hyperlinks at the bottom of each page?

I'd have to bug someone who's more familiar with html to add/keep any hyperlinks, but my understanding is that it should be doable so long as the links are to locations within the document.

For the one I did for ACE, I have not yet added a hyperlinked table of contents, but it's still on my to-do-list. I originally did this just for my personal use, but after reading a manual on the Kindle instead of the computer for the first time, I got a bit excited and then began to wonder why no one else was doing this yet.

The biggest downfall is the graphics, when viewing on a black and white e-reader device, however should any company decide to start making manuals available, they could publish them (for free) on Amazon.com and offer them through Amazon.com (also for free), which would allow people to view the manuals in full color on their iPhone/Android/Blackberry devices, as well as any e-reader devices (Kindle, Sony, Nook, etc...).

u-he

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