Izotope buys BT's Sonik Architects (Stutter Edit now Released!)

[Gamma-UT]

This is not cutting edge, not even a year ago. This has been in the offing for years.
I did look at the screenshots and features and I cant see it being worth $250. Yes, I noticed the still very high intro price.

I have plenty of plugs that cover what you guys would call 'stutter' and Glitch isnt one of them, its not up my street and too restrictive for my taste as is this one....plus the laughable price tag

did you try it tho?

I've tried it - that might have been a mistake. It might not be cutting edge in that plenty of stutter/glitch plug-ins have gone before but it is very usable, particularly with the generator modes in there. It's potentially a massive time saver for doing a number of effects so its price is largely a factor of how much of that time you want saved.

[popmoney]

"very modern and with all the newest features"

"forefront; lead: on the cutting edge of computer technology."

"the most recent stage of development in a particular type of work or activity"

These are three definitions from online dictionaries for the phrase " CUTTING-EDGE " .

This plugin is cutting edge surely.

[TimPanella]

This thing is quite fun..here's a quick bit on the chorus of one of my tunes.
http://bluedad.com/iStutterPlug.wav
It's fun now, but how much would I really use it?

Nice little sample track -- reminds me of Thomas Dolby! (Actually, it *really* reminds me of seeing Thomas Dolby along with BT at the World Cafe in Philly.)

I was considering this plugin too -- I love iZotope's stuff, and never for a second regretted purchasing Ozone and Alloy. I'm also not one to complain about software pricing, but this one definitely seems high for such a specialized effect. At $149 (regular) / $99 (intro), I might've considered it more seriously.

For the number of times I realistically "need" chopping/stuttering or filtered breaks in my productions, I think I'm adequately covered already with either The Finger, any number of tempo-synced filters I've already got plus good old-fashioned Kontakt or, heck, even inline audio cutting and pasting.

[Sampleconstruct]

This is the first demo I made after programming my first Snapshot bank in stutter edit. Loving this Plug-In already...

[xalama qo]

iStutterPlug.wav

very naughty!

[cryophonik]

For the number of times I realistically "need" chopping/stuttering or filtered breaks in my productions, I think I'm adequately covered already with either The Finger, any number of tempo-synced filters I've already got plus good old-fashioned Kontakt or, heck, even inline audio cutting and pasting.

That pretty much sums up my feelings on it. BUT, I haven't tried the demo yet and the impression I get from these threads and from looking at the GUI is that this is much more straightfoward to use than some of the others (e.g., The Finger, Artillery 2, Effectrix) are. And, if it's easier to use, I might end up using it more frequently (not that that would necessarily be a good thing, mind you )

I think that leaves me also agreeing with you here:

At $149 (regular) / $99 (intro), I might've considered it more seriously.

Finally, while the demos I've heard so far on KVR and other forums all sound very cool, I have yet to hear it do anything that The Finger or Artillery 2 couldn't do just as well.

[Echoes in the Attic]

IMO his most amazing work was his 2006 "This Binary Universe", a non-dance album in complex time signatures featuring some of the deepest electronic work ever (Keyboard magazine wrote "In a hundred years, it could well be studied as the first major electronic work of the new millennium. It's that good.")

I couldn't agree more with the review. Not since Dark-side of the moon have i found an album that can interest me and suck me in so intensely every time I listen to it. It's really a work of art. And this is coming from someone who has hated everything else he as ever done. It just reaffirms the fact that just because someone makes music you hate, doesn't mean they don't have talent (which unfortunately is an idea many people subscribe to)...

Anyways stutter edit looks cool, will try it out for sure.

[SolarRainUK]

For the number of times I realistically "need" chopping/stuttering or filtered breaks in my productions, I think I'm adequately covered already with either The Finger, any number of tempo-synced filters I've already got plus good old-fashioned Kontakt or, heck, even inline audio cutting and pasting.

That pretty much sums up my feelings on it. BUT, I haven't tried the demo yet and the impression I get from these threads and from looking at the GUI is that this is much more straightfoward to use than some of the others (e.g., The Finger, Artillery 2, Effectrix) are. And, if it's easier to use, I might end up using it more frequently (not that that would necessarily be a good thing, mind you )

I think that leaves me also agreeing with you here:

At $149 (regular) / $99 (intro), I might've considered it more seriously.

I agree with that too, the price is a little high IMO.

I've played quite a bit with the demo, and while I think it's really great what you can do with it I doubt I would use it often enough to justify the price. I do use the kind of effects this thing can do quite often, but I've always done most of it manually and TBH I've produced better and more controlled glitch effects than by using this. It's more time consuming doing it manually of course.

Saying that, if I were to spend enough time creating banks of effects specifically tailored to my purpose I think I might appreciate this tool a lot more. I found some awesome effects among the presets now and again as I went through the banks, so I might try and consolidate the better ones into a single bank. Hmm..I hope you can copy and paste individual effects between banks, I'll have to try that.

Pity it doesn't have a built in sequencer for automation, although it would be easy enough to do that in the DAW. I guess this thing is aimed more at live use though.

[ChamomileShark]

Hey All,

Anyone using Cubase SX as a host for Stutter Edit. Downloaded the demo, but it doesn't show up as an output on the MIDI track. Only got to use it through the preset manager virtual keyboard, however I played with it for 4 hrs straight lol...Any suggestions or perhaps it's a bug in plug-in?

I have the same issue. I was going to ask here as the clock is counting down and I've had no reply from Izotope (though they usually are quite quick).

I wonder if this is because Cubase SX uses an older way of handling VSTs - I have a minor issue with PPG 3V which has been confirmed to being down to this.

[BERFAB]

I can't really see this in anything that I might compose, and if I need a special 'one-off' effect like this, I'd probably go with the Finger or Glitch.

This kind of reminds me of a review I read awhile back for a .vst effect that did the 'tape stop' sound (like the end of Alice Cooper's Schools Out). The reviewer gave the plug very high marks, but cautioned that any artist acquiring this effect would only be able to use it (well) exactly once.

I'm sure there are genres that allow for a myriad of stuttering FX. I just don't write in them.

Cheers
-B

[CANE CREEK]

IMO his most amazing work was his 2006 "This Binary Universe", a non-dance album in complex time signatures featuring some of the deepest electronic work ever (Keyboard magazine wrote "In a hundred years, it could well be studied as the first major electronic work of the new millennium. It's that good.")

I couldn't agree more with the review. Not since Dark-side of the moon have i found an album that can interest me and suck me in so intensely every time I listen to it. It's really a work of art. And this is coming from someone who has hated everything else he as ever done. It just reaffirms the fact that just because someone makes music you hate, doesn't mean they don't have talent (which unfortunately is an idea many people subscribe to)...

Anyways stutter edit looks cool, will try it out for sure.

I was the opposite , when I first heard "This binary universe" I thought he went overboard with the stutter effect it was like listening to a child with a new toy, just as well I had far better albums from Boards of Canada,telefon tel aviv,Dusted etc to listen to instead.

[C.Bennett]

I have to say that This Binary Universe is a masterclass when it comes to production but the whole album is mind-numbingly dull. Once you get past all the fantastic production and effects, all you're left with is a forgettable album. I've tried so hard to like it but there's no real hook to bring me back.

BT needs to concentrate more on his songwriting than production imho.

Another shout for Stutter Edit though. It's just soo good, especially when you apply it to stuff other than drums. Inspiring stuff. Going to have to find the cash for this before the price increase.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I have to say that This Binary Universe is a masterclass when it comes to production but the whole album is mind-numbingly dull. Once you get past all the fantastic production and effects, all you're left with is a forgettable album. I've tried so hard to like it but there's no real hook to bring me back.

BT needs to concentrate more on his songwriting than production imho.

Not to sway the conversation from it's intended purpose, but being a musician before a producer by far, it's actually the composition of this binary universe which really impressed me, rather than the production (though of course it was very well produced as well). Odd time signatures, nice chord arrangements, pretty unique blend of real drums, electronic glitch drums, guitar, pianos, orchestras and synths. I have been constantly amazed for years at this album. The composition just blows me away. I tried to find more like it by BT and generally puked in my mouth at every other song he made. So strange. I've never held one single album in such high regard while simultaneously despising all else made by a musician.

[C.Bennett]

Not to sway the conversation from it's intended purpose, but being a musician before a producer by far, it's actually the composition of this binary universe which really impressed me, rather than the production (though of course it was very well produced as well). Odd time signatures, nice chord arrangements, pretty unique blend of real drums, electronic glitch drums, guitar, pianos, orchestras and synths. I have been constantly amazed for years at this album. The composition just blows me away. I tried to find more like it by BT and generally puked in my mouth at every other song he made. So strange. I've never held one single album in such high regard while simultaneously despising all else made by a musician.

Don't get me wrong, it definitely has its moments and I can see where you're coming from. I don't know. I think I was maybe just a bit disappointed with it.

Anyway. Back to the main topic. Stutter Edit rocks!

[A.M. Gold]

I can't really see this in anything that I might compose, and if I need a special 'one-off' effect like this, I'd probably go with the Finger or Glitch.

As I said in an earlier post, this is a genre specific effect. There's a reason BT helped engineer this---he is one of the most responsible people for bringing the "stutter effect" into the mainstream. It's sort of his "auto-tune" effect, so to speak. And, like the auto-tune effect, you are either going to have a significant use for it or no use for it at all, which is entirely dependent on the material you are working on.

That said, I think this is an excellent tool for that specific type of effect.