Piano-roll improvements?
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 19 Jan, 2003
I know, I was talking about the new one, if it would be like the one in reason.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Hi Jules.. Where do I start?!
ok..
USER DEFINABLE FUNCTIONS with HOT KEYS
I use Cubase VST for my day job. One of it's most powerful and time-saving features is the "Logical Editor". For those that don't know, it allows a set of rules to be defined to filter MIDI messages, followed by another set to modify the selected events.
This allows the user to define their own custom functions.. and VST allows these to be linked to hot keys!! As far as I can tell this feature (the key bindings, not the logical editor) has still not appeared in SX (someone please correct me if I'm wrong..)
If there is one feature you could add that might wean me off VST at work, this is it
MORE CONSISTENCY WHEN EDITING DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLIP
Clicking on the background (for example) should always have the same effect IMHO for a (even!) shallower learning curve.
I would also like to be able to render MIDI clips through MIDI only plug-ins, in the same way that I can with audio.. even better if I could drag MIDI filters onto MIDI clips: Imagine a MIDI clip with a VSTi running on it; you could have ONE track with umpteen different synths for different sections.. or you could copy a MIDI clip a bunch of times, but run a different VSTi on each, etc..
QUANTISE
Grooves need sorting out, I miss those badly.
I really like the non-destructive quantise available for a clip: however, I would like to be able to apply this destructively once I'm happy with it. I would also like to be able to quantise selections of notes in the MIDI editor with the same percentage slider.
Thought of that myself.. must be a good idea If the western diatonic scales were offered as templates, with "accidentals" where needed it might make users of classical notation more comfortable.. it would probably make the piano roll easier to "read" for everyone else too, unless they are particularly atonal 
ok..
USER DEFINABLE FUNCTIONS with HOT KEYSI use Cubase VST for my day job. One of it's most powerful and time-saving features is the "Logical Editor". For those that don't know, it allows a set of rules to be defined to filter MIDI messages, followed by another set to modify the selected events.
This allows the user to define their own custom functions.. and VST allows these to be linked to hot keys!! As far as I can tell this feature (the key bindings, not the logical editor) has still not appeared in SX (someone please correct me if I'm wrong..)
If there is one feature you could add that might wean me off VST at work, this is it
MORE CONSISTENCY WHEN EDITING DIFFERENT TYPES OF CLIPClicking on the background (for example) should always have the same effect IMHO for a (even!) shallower learning curve.
I would also like to be able to render MIDI clips through MIDI only plug-ins, in the same way that I can with audio.. even better if I could drag MIDI filters onto MIDI clips: Imagine a MIDI clip with a VSTi running on it; you could have ONE track with umpteen different synths for different sections.. or you could copy a MIDI clip a bunch of times, but run a different VSTi on each, etc..
QUANTISEGrooves need sorting out, I miss those badly.
I really like the non-destructive quantise available for a clip: however, I would like to be able to apply this destructively once I'm happy with it. I would also like to be able to quantise selections of notes in the MIDI editor with the same percentage slider.
braj wrote: And maybe a snap-to scale/key feature. Nothing fancy, just have a mode that doesn't allow the user to enter a note in anything but the defined scale/key, which can be toggled on/off.
Thought of that myself.. must be a good idea If the western diatonic scales were offered as templates, with "accidentals" where needed it might make users of classical notation more comfortable.. it would probably make the piano roll easier to "read" for everyone else too, unless they are particularly atonal -
- KVRAF
- 5350 posts since 8 Aug, 2003 from Berlin Germany
RIGHT ON!platinumears wrote:Hi Jules.. Where do I start?!
ok..
lots of good stuff there platinumears
(btw, I know I'm a little estatic about this idea, but am I the only one that thinks linking VST parameters to the piano roll is a good idea
I'd even like to go as far as linking data to notes.)-
- KVRer
- 14 posts since 14 Feb, 2004 from chicago
linking vst params to the piano roll... do you mean editing them in a cc environment, a la velocity, rather than with the automation lines?
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- KVRAF
- 5350 posts since 8 Aug, 2003 from Berlin Germany
Yes. A bit. I would never suggest replacing the automation lines, I do how ever suggest that parameter data can be moved when midi data is moved.niall wrote:linking vst params to the piano roll... do you mean editing them in a cc environment, a la velocity, rather than with the automation lines?
The way I see it, the parameters are offen changed in relation to a phrase or a part or even a note. When you move that data (also audio clips!) you should be able to quickly and easily move the VST parameter data as well. The best way I see to do this is to embed the parameter changes in the clip/note (still viewable from track) so that they are part of that clip/note whatever. Attach it so to speak.
If the VST data is created in the clip then it stays in position relative to the clip/note. If it is created on the track then it stays in place relative to the song position.
(To all of you who have tracked, it's a bit like the way a line in a tracker can contain a note and a parameter. You can cut copy and paste and sometimes drag this note around and it's easy to select either the note or the parameter, or the whole entier line. The parameter can be coupled to the note and thus the phrase.)
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 13 Dec, 2003 from Tauranga, New Zealand
It would be nice if there was an button to bring up a score/sheet music editor. It would be much easier to transcribe music from a book when you can't play it!
This would probably be hard to implement though
This would probably be hard to implement though
I help when I can, but more often its me who needs it! 
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- KVRer
- 4 posts since 4 Dec, 2003
Not sure if this has been mentioned already, because this thread is getting quite big now, but....
How about the ability to lock a note to its pitch while you're dragging and moving it? Unless you've got a very steady hand when moving your mouse, you always end up moving the note to a different pitch. Currently the only workaround I've got is to zoom in so far that the 'depth' of each note becomes so large that it mkaes it a lot harder to accidentally move it up or down when you only wanted to move it left or right.
Cheers.
How about the ability to lock a note to its pitch while you're dragging and moving it? Unless you've got a very steady hand when moving your mouse, you always end up moving the note to a different pitch. Currently the only workaround I've got is to zoom in so far that the 'depth' of each note becomes so large that it mkaes it a lot harder to accidentally move it up or down when you only wanted to move it left or right.
Cheers.
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- KVRist
- 68 posts since 9 Jul, 2003
Another important thing is to be able to "see" controller data. IE When I import a midi file someone has emailed me I have to select the notes then select whatever controller data I want to view. Well with out knowing what the creator has put in it is quit tedious to find all the different parameters he has automated. It would be nice if a midi clip also showed controller data in the edit window as well as the notes simultaneously.
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- KVRAF
- 2582 posts since 24 Apr, 2003 from Canada
I'd like to be able to configure the mouse-wheel just like any other button or key (this isn't possible now, is it?)
The default of the mousewheel zooming is a little strange. I'd much rather use it for transport left/right (currently shift-mwheel does this) and use shift-mwheel for zooming.
Sorry if that is slightly OT to the piano roll situation, but it seriously impacts my workflow using the pianoroll anyway.
The default of the mousewheel zooming is a little strange. I'd much rather use it for transport left/right (currently shift-mwheel does this) and use shift-mwheel for zooming.
Sorry if that is slightly OT to the piano roll situation, but it seriously impacts my workflow using the pianoroll anyway.
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- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
I agree.floyd wrote:I'd like to be able to configure the mouse-wheel just like any other button or key (this isn't possible now, is it?)
The default of the mousewheel zooming is a little strange. I'd much rather use it for transport left/right (currently shift-mwheel does this) and use shift-mwheel for zooming.
Sorry if that is slightly OT to the piano roll situation, but it seriously impacts my workflow using the pianoroll anyway.
