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MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:21 am

The easiest way of adding a new VST plugin is to drag-drop the DLL on a rack slot. Once this is done a first time, this VST plugin will also be listed anywhere where you can insert a VST plugin, as MU.LAB now knows about the existence of this plugin. Hope this helps.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:32 am

This might be of interest:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=311446

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:50 am

Ok i see what you're saying. I have the DLL and I'm trying to move it in with my song track. Whenever i move it off the file location part of the screen, it becomes a circle with a slash through it, suggesting it can't be done. Any ideas? It seems like it should work.

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:57 am

That means you've not moved to a valid drop area. You need to drop onto a rack slot, not just anywhere.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:12 am

And if you don't get to drag-drop, you can also add a VST plugin by clicking on an empty rack slot -> Synths/Effects -> VST -> "Browse for VST plug-in", then browse to the DLL.

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:17 am

Ok. Doing it the way mutools said, i also hit a brick wall. I go through to finding a VST plugin from synths/effects and the folder which should contain it appears empty. Any ideas? I think only certain types of files will appear there. But i'm not positive.

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:22 am

Keenya wrote:Ok. Doing it the way mutools said, i also hit a brick wall. I go through to finding a VST plugin from synths/effects and the folder which should contain it appears empty. Any ideas? I think only certain types of files will appear there. But i'm not positive.

Yeah, all VST plugins should be DLL files. Check first of all that you've downloaded the synths/effects you'd like to use into the folder you were looking in from inside Mulab. Then check that they're not contained in a zip file. If they are, Windows will let you look inside them as if they were a folder but MuLab won't be able to see them. You can tell if files are contained in a zip file on Windows if they looks something like the icons in this picture:

If they are, you can extract the files from each of them by right clicking on them and selecting extract from the menu. They should then show up when you look in that folder from the Browse for VST... option in Mulab.

If you're not on Windows or the plugins are not zipped up, sorry for being irrelevant!

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:53 pm

Thank you so much! that was absolutely 100% relevant. Ok so i got it to work. I now have just vocals of the song i want to use. One question. It sounds a little watery and kinda wierd. Are there settings i can fiddle with on the knockout program screen to make it sound more natural? Thanks everyone!

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:14 pm

Also there's one point in the song where the vocals cut out completely and the instrumentals play. I know that there should be vocals there. It comes back in later and the instruments cut back out.

robenestobenz · Post by **robenestobenz** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:21 pm

Keenya wrote:Thank you so much! that was absolutely 100% relevant. Ok so i got it to work. I now have just vocals of the song i want to use. One question. It sounds a little watery and kinda wierd. Are there settings i can fiddle with on the knockout program screen to make it sound more natural? Thanks everyone!

It's always going to have that slightly warbly sound unfortunately, due to the nature of the technique. I got results that would probably be passable in a mix (and also heard a load of vocal details in Radiohead's Reckoner I'd have never noticed otherwise) using:

Extract centre: On
FFT: 8192
R Input Gain: 6
Blur: 2

If you're getting too much bass through, try raising low-cut to 230-ish. If you get a lot of crackles, it's because the 8192 setting is taxing your computer too hard - go to edit>audio setup in MuLab, make a note of your audio buffer size (might be called block size) and try doubling it and see if that helps. This will introduce a latency to playback though, so I'd change the buffer size back for projects where you don't need kn0ck0ut.

Keenya wrote:Also there's one point in the song where the vocals cut out completely and the instrumentals play. I know that there should be vocals there.

If the vocals aren't dead centre, I don't think knockout will do as good a job at picking them out. Try setting "Extract centre" to off for that section of the song -- you'll definitely get the vocals back, but there'll probably be quite a lot of the rest of the track seeping through as well.

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:25 am

Woah that helped a lot. Thanks. But getting the exact tempo of the song is difficult. I noticed that it gradually speeds up into the chorus, so for now im just manually changing it around that part of the song. Is there anything i can do to make the tempo change at that part automatically?

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:13 am

In the Composer -> right-click the timebar -> "Insert Tempo Change" and "Edit Tempo Changes".

Keenya · Post by **Keenya** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:15 pm

Ok that sounds promising, but where is composer? Right clicking the timebar shows me nothing to do with tempo or other wise.

MuTools · Post by **MuTools** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:56 pm

http://www.mutools.com/mulab-intro-movie.html

http://www.mutools.com/mulab/docs/index.html

> DiGiT < · Post by **> DiGiT <** » Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:49 pm

i have faith that youll find what youre looking for in the manual. crack it open. take a look. then report back on what you found!

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