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For the money you're shelling out on a portable device, if you're going to use it for music, why not just get a laptop running a real operating system?

I picked up a 10" tablet for using as a reading device. I know it has limitations, and wouldn't want to use it for music.
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TristezaOrange wrote:android sucks. for audio.

There. Fixed that for you.
This being a website dedicated to audio, I assumed it was implied.
Nevertheless, the lack of oversight in the android market is bad for audio AND everything else.
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Dominus wrote:For the money you're shelling out on a portable device, if you're going to use it for music, why not just get a laptop running a real operating system?

I picked up a 10" tablet for using as a reading device. I know it has limitations, and wouldn't want to use it for music.
I like to make music while I poop in public restrooms.
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Dominus wrote:For the money you're shelling out on a portable device, if you're going to use it for music, why not just get a laptop running a real operating system?

I picked up a 10" tablet for using as a reading device. I know it has limitations, and wouldn't want to use it for music.
Why not have a really powerful desktop at home, and a 1.5 pound device that you can record and play with on the go, then dump to the desktop when you get home?

iPad/GarageBand for iOS + iMac/GarageBand for OS X is a nice combo.

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NER wrote:
TristezaOrange wrote:android sucks. for audio.

There. Fixed that for you.
This being a website dedicated to audio, I assumed it was implied.
Nevertheless, the lack of oversight in the android market is bad for audio AND everything else.
Yea but Gingerbread addresses the audio "latency" problem that has been present in Android. This is the only reason the "big name" audio apps have not ported their apps to Android. All it will take is one Nanostudio or Beatmaker and then the "IOS is better for Audio" statement won't really mean as much. Why Google waited until now to fix this considering Apple has such a strong audio app presence is beyond me. I do agree that this whole "pro audio in Android sucks" problem has gone on way to long and I am sure has lost alot of Android users but at the end of the day is any application for audio on the phone better then another application on a desktop/laptop? Its great for controllers but even sh!ty android has programs that do that. Maybe when everything is 24 bit I will look at things differently.

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adydub wrote:
Benutzername wrote:If you want to use your own own sounds as SMS ringtones on an iThing then you have to sell them to yourself via iTunes. Yeah, great audio system (at least for Apple).

iOS might be great for audio programming but companies with such an attitude will never get money from me.
Not sure about having to 'sell them to yourself' - just load your sounds into garageband and use the 'Send ringtone to itunes' option - it's then in your itunes library ready for the next sync.
Is that supposed to be quick and easy?
polaris20 wrote:
jacqueslacouth wrote:I have to agree with the majority of posts here. I am an Android user (at least for the next 2 years of my goddamn contract) and I realise I should have shelled out for an iPhone. The android apps are generally lacking in quality and NOT just the music ones...it feels to me like everything seems to be a poor workaround trying to be an iphone but never quite getting there....anyways, for my music stuff? Looks like I'll get one of these iPad 2 thingamajigs...they look the vegemite on toast!
I agree. The OS itself is pretty decent (when it wasn't crashing) and is visually nicer and more functional than Blackberry is. However I found it to be far too unstable (crashing in the middle of a call, anyone?) for it to be something I'd want to continue with. And yes, the apps just suck. This isn't Google's fault; in fact Google's own apps are quite nice. But the rest are not designed very well, and lack polish.
:shrug:

For what it's worth, I'm a mobile enthusiast who's had Multiple WinMo, Android, WP7 devices and an iphone4, and this isn't my experience at all. I'm vastly underwhelmed by iphones. What phones did you guys have? Crippled cheap carrier versions or unlocked flagship devices? Android has only given me a fast, stable experience with functions ahead of the competition - granted, with the audio latency issue as an exception.

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NER wrote:
Dominus wrote:For the money you're shelling out on a portable device, if you're going to use it for music, why not just get a laptop running a real operating system?

I picked up a 10" tablet for using as a reading device. I know it has limitations, and wouldn't want to use it for music.
I like to make music while I poop in public restrooms.
You can control your flatulence that well?

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So... you're complaining that you don't have a full featured DAW on a phone that you paid about the same price as a McDonalds combo meal? Give it a negative review and move on. No $7 is worth being angry over.
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The Chase wrote:
For what it's worth, I'm a mobile enthusiast who's had Multiple WinMo, Android, WP7 devices and an iphone4, and this isn't my experience at all. I'm vastly underwhelmed by iphones. What phones did you guys have? Crippled cheap carrier versions or unlocked flagship devices? Android has only given me a fast, stable experience with functions ahead of the competition - granted, with the audio latency issue as an exception.
I'm an IT admin, who supports or has supported every version of Blackberry for the last 6 years, WinMo 5, 6, 6.5 and WinPh7, Android (Droid, Incredible, X), and now iPhones. My wife also had a Samsung Galaxy S for a couple weeks.

As such you'll have a tough time convincing me that Android isn't unstable, insecure crap. But your mileage may vary.

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The Chase wrote:
adydub wrote:
Benutzername wrote:If you want to use your own own sounds as SMS ringtones on an iThing then you have to sell them to yourself via iTunes. Yeah, great audio system (at least for Apple).

iOS might be great for audio programming but companies with such an attitude will never get money from me.
Not sure about having to 'sell them to yourself' - just load your sounds into garageband and use the 'Send ringtone to itunes' option - it's then in your itunes library ready for the next sync.
Is that supposed to be quick and easy?
polaris20 wrote:
jacqueslacouth wrote:I have to agree with the majority of posts here. I am an Android user (at least for the next 2 years of my goddamn contract) and I realise I should have shelled out for an iPhone. The android apps are generally lacking in quality and NOT just the music ones...it feels to me like everything seems to be a poor workaround trying to be an iphone but never quite getting there....anyways, for my music stuff? Looks like I'll get one of these iPad 2 thingamajigs...they look the vegemite on toast!
I agree. The OS itself is pretty decent (when it wasn't crashing) and is visually nicer and more functional than Blackberry is. However I found it to be far too unstable (crashing in the middle of a call, anyone?) for it to be something I'd want to continue with. And yes, the apps just suck. This isn't Google's fault; in fact Google's own apps are quite nice. But the rest are not designed very well, and lack polish.
:shrug:

For what it's worth, I'm a mobile enthusiast who's had Multiple WinMo, Android, WP7 devices and an iphone4, and this isn't my experience at all. I'm vastly underwhelmed by iphones. What phones did you guys have? Crippled cheap carrier versions or unlocked flagship devices? Android has only given me a fast, stable experience with functions ahead of the competition - granted, with the audio latency issue as an exception.
Same here. I got an iPhone 4 from my company and tested it for several weeks. But I didn't like it so I returned it. Well, it looked good but having to use a dozen of apps to access the same information that I can see instantly through widgets on my Desire felt really awkward and clumsy. For serious work I'd take an (reasonable powered) Android device over an iOS device every day.

I haven't rooted my device or installed a custom ROM but I could do it if I wanted too. And that just feels great too.

I hope that the audio latency issue will fade away when more devices are running with 2.3. When there is a market then the apps will follow shortly.

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polaris20 wrote:
The Chase wrote:
For what it's worth, I'm a mobile enthusiast who's had Multiple WinMo, Android, WP7 devices and an iphone4, and this isn't my experience at all. I'm vastly underwhelmed by iphones. What phones did you guys have? Crippled cheap carrier versions or unlocked flagship devices? Android has only given me a fast, stable experience with functions ahead of the competition - granted, with the audio latency issue as an exception.
I'm an IT admin, who supports or has supported every version of Blackberry for the last 6 years, WinMo 5, 6, 6.5 and WinPh7, Android (Droid, Incredible, X), and now iPhones. My wife also had a Samsung Galaxy S for a couple weeks.

As such you'll have a tough time convincing me that Android isn't unstable, insecure crap. But your mileage may vary.
Interesting, people say this about Windows and now Android which is Linux lol. I find its not the OS but the users that cause trouble. I have an LG GT540, cheap as chips and have Cyanogen mod 7 on it (2.3.3) Its great fun and fully mod able. I tend to see Apple products as being locked into thier way of working which I hate with a passion.

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polaris20 wrote:As such you'll have a tough time convincing me that Android isn't unstable, insecure crap. But your mileage may vary.
My wife struggled to get one to work for any period of time (with Verizon) without the software going loopy. She replaced the phone 3 times and each time the same problem. Software updates fixed one problem but introduced another.

She finally gave up when the phone started calling people randomly and bought an iPhone. She said she'd rather have an Android phone, but at least the iPhone is more stable.

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polaris20 wrote:
As such you'll have a tough time convincing me that Android isn't unstable, insecure crap. But your mileage may vary.

Good thing we don't need to convince you, then! :D

My ancient Hero works fabulously here. Anecdotal evidence, I know - still, my next phone will certainly be an Android one again. Once you get used to widgets, the notification bar and the flexibility of Android it's so hard working on an iPhone. My girlfriend has one (iPhone 4) and it pisses me off - do I really have to go into a dedicated app to do anything? Anything at all?

Again, YMMV.

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Dominus wrote:For the money you're shelling out on a portable device, if you're going to use it for music, why not just get a laptop running a real operating system?
I'm becoming more and more skeptical of portable music apps. A Macbook running Live is such an easy to use and powerful music making tool, and easy enough to toss into a bag and take on the bus or into a coffee shop. None of the iOS music making apps I've tried so far tempt me to switch at all yet.

I think there's a reason all the top selling iOS apps are games.

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